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 06-28-2011, 14:42 Post: 179208
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I have a client who's MF-471 split in half at the bell housing of the tractor. I would really like to speak with other people who have had this happen. Please contact me via email. We can then talk through email or on the phone. Thanks to everyone and any help would be appreciated!






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 06-28-2011, 15:49 Post: 179209
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Your client (you're a lawyer?) was at the time lifting something with his tractor's front loader, right?

It's a little hard to communicate by email in the absence of an email address, but yes, it has happened, including to me.






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Thank you for your response. I guess I left out my email but its mftractor1017@gmail.com. And yes I work for a law firm (though I'm just a law student right now) and my boss and I would greatly appreciate talking to you. Once you email me I can give you details and supply you with a phone number. Thanks again!






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 06-30-2011, 11:00 Post: 179221
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I have lot's of experience at this subject, and may be able to save you a bunch of time and money.

Feel free to get in touch if you like.

If you're thinking this is a product liability case, you might be in for a very rude awakening.



Best of luck.






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I have lot's of experience at this subject, and may be able to save you a bunch of time and money.Feel free to get in touch if you like.If you're thinking this is a product liability case, you might be in for a very rude awakening.Best of luck.



Murf, I am very interested in talking with you. Please email me directly at mftractor1017 at gmail dot com. Thanks for your reply and I look forward to speaking with you.






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 06-30-2011, 13:28 Post: 179225
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Murf, why do you say that?

Josh, Murf is probably your best source on this site for answers.






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 06-30-2011, 14:31 Post: 179226
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Murf, why do you say that?Josh, Murf is probably your best source on this site for answers.



Thanks Alan! I sent Murf a PM earlier and I'm looking forward to hearing what he has to say.






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 06-30-2011, 17:04 Post: 179228
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Murf, why do you say that?Josh, Murf is probably your best source on this site for answers.



Thanks for the kind words.

A MF 471 is a big boy, not exactly the typical CUT, depending on the exact setup (2WD or 4WD, I'm guessing it was 4WD) the basic tractor weighs ~6,000 pounds. Add to that a FEL, another 1,500 pounds. A tractor & FEL that size would need ~1,500 pounds of counter-balance then add operator, fuel, etc., etc.

Were now talking about nearly 10,000 pounds pushed around by a 70hp diesel.

Add to that the mechanical stresses of a FEL itself, and as soon as I hear of the word "snow" in there, my mind goes "Oh-oh, I know what's coming next.".

According to published stats, the tractor was produced between 2002 - 2006.

That's a 4 to 8 year old machine with lots of opportunity for abuse during that time.

This machine is not new, and is in use all over the world, if they were defective, we would have heard about it by now.

IMHO.


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... my mind goes "Oh-oh, I know what's coming next.".

... if they were defective, we would have heard about it by now.

Aren't those two statements somewhat contradictory? And you really consider a commercial-grade tractor made in the 2000s to be old?

As I understand it, an action has been filed on behalf of a farmer who bought it with a dealer-recommended-and-installed FEL. The tractor folded, crushing his legs beyond healing.






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 06-30-2011, 20:14 Post: 179231
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Not trying to say it's old at all, but was only trying to say, like the old adage goes, if it didn't break when it was shiny & new, it isn't going to.

There's a reason the law says any new product has to have a warranty of 30+ days after all.

Warranties only cover "defects in material and workmanship" for a reason. That reason is abuse, intentional or otherwise.

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