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 | strammell
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4 hanover virginia 
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2004-03-24 80945
Where can you buy good railroad ties. I need about 150.
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 | Peters
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3034 Northern AL 
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2004-03-24 80947
There is a plant in Millport AL. I would look for information on the RR if you want the used variety. ....
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 | ncrunch32
Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 762 Kingston, NY 
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2004-03-24 80955
I bought mine from the local lumber company (William in Rhinebeck NY) for $10 each. They came in bundles of 16 - I needed 80 total for the poolyard extension project in my pics. ....
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| ncrunch32
Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 762 Kingston, NY
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2004-03-24 80957
By the way, what do you mean by "good"? Typically they are sold used - good on one side and bad on the other. Are you looking for "new" rr ties? ....
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 | DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2004-03-24 80961
Home Depot and Lowes both carry rr ties. ....
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| Abbeywoods
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 110 New England
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2004-03-24 80977
I hope you don't mean RR ties as in creasote RR ties. Most states prohibit their use for landscaping purposes because as they decompose, they do contaminate the soil. I only use the new kind for my customers, PT SYP, which work out fine. Available at most Lowes and Home Depot. ....
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| DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2004-03-24 80980
A/woods, what are the new type treated with? ....
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley
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2004-03-25 81054
Good point about regs and creosote. I believe that around here creosote treated wood can be used but not for anything attached to a dwelling or some variation like that. A guy near here bought several logging trailer loads of them from an old rail line that was taken out of service. He couldn't sell them because most were in very poor condition and his landfill didn't want them. Some places they might not meet regs and could be hard to dispose of.
Another guy around here has several large piles of highway guardrail posts that didn't quite meet spec or something. We used some for retaining walls because they are 8" x 8" squared timber, which makes for easier building even if they are of varying length. They also are creosote treated but more lightly than rail ties. Neither the building code nor enviro police have showed up. ....
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| ncrunch32
Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 762 Kingston, NY
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2004-03-25 81056
I used the creosote rr ties in my project in my pics. Everything passed with the building inspector. He could find nothing in the code book that forbid them. Also - when I told them they were used and not new that seemed to make a difference.
Regarding pressure treated - I was told by the fence companies that even PT wood was soon going to be off the market. Is PT-SYP a new kind of PT wood? Or is it typical pressure treated wood? ....
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley
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2004-03-25 81066
I've heard the green PT may disappear as well. I think the active ingredient is arsenic. Probably not so good to use PT wood for dog throwing sticks or in runs where there's a chewing pup. Maybe I'll eventually be sorry I didn't get more serious about buying 40 acres of cedar bush but good cedar posts and rails still are pretty cheap and do it yourself from bush is a lot of work. ....
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| Abbeywoods
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 110 New England
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2004-03-25 81087
In Connecticut, arsenic based pressure treated wood is not to be sold, SYP is Southern Yellow Pine. ....
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| Jim on Timberridge
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 172 La Crosse WI
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2004-03-25 81113
I tried using untreated ties, called cull ties because they were rejected by the RR prior to treating for some flaw. They were mostly red oak, some white oak. I soaked each of 55 in a copper-based preservative solution. It may have slowed down the decay process by a few years, but now after 10 years, I had to tear up what was left of them.
A contractor used creosoted timbers from a dismantled railway bridge for a retaining wall on my driveway 15 years ago. It looks like it will last for 50 years.
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