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 03-31-2004, 10:38 Post: 81704
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I picked up a B7510 yesterday to try out and got to move some dirt and rocks with it yesterday. Nice tractor but I can see where getting a little more would be nice. I need to return the trailer to the dealer today either with or without the tractor. He also has a 2003 B7800 on the lot which I havn't gotten a quote on yet but I'm guessing he would let it go for ~$17,000 with FEL and mmm. The 7510 is costing ~$14,000 with the same stuff but has about ten hours on it. Miraculously my wife told me to get whatever I think we NEED.

My question is, will the 7510 be able to do everything the 7800 can do or not? I realize it would take longer with the 7510 but time is not my main priority, however, it is always an issue. On the other hand, my wife won't be too happy if I spend an extra $3000 and don't get any advantage except getting things done a little quicker. I will use the tractor for moving A LOT of material (Mainly dirt), grading and leveling, removing snow with a back blade, mowing 1 1/2 acres, maybe some post holes and a few other miscellanous things I can't think of right now. I need to leave in a couple hours to get the trailer back to the dealer so I hope someone can give me some guidance before I go. HELP!

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 03-31-2004, 10:47 Post: 81705
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I forgot to ask above, how well will the 7800 mow compared to the 7510 and how well will they mow compared to a regular rider mower. And although I said time wasn't my main concern on getting things done, how much would the 7800 speed things up in general? Thanks a lot.

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 03-31-2004, 11:24 Post: 81708
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If after just a brief try-out you are thinking bigger is better... then maybe you should go for it.

BUT.....If you are doing a fair amount of grading you probably will not like the non-position control, three point hitch on the B7800 and the B7500.

Maybe a 2410 or a 2710 (comes with position control) and a top and tilt kit would be a happy compromise.






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 03-31-2004, 12:05 Post: 81711
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I have to agree about the position control on the 3-point. I would trade 3hp for the position control in a hurry. The B7800 has the 1/4" valve which is nice to have, but is no replacement for position control if you are doing grading work. The B2710 is the same frame size as the 7800, but has position control, a rear hydraulic block, and some other creature features that were taken off the 7800, and the other B7xxx tractors to market a cost competitive tractor.

As far as size, I mow with mine and it is fine. The longer you are in the seat, the smaller the tractor gets. I use a rear finish mower instead of the belly mower. I find it a lot more convenient.

I went to pick up a B2410 I had ordered. It was the wife at the dealer the day of pick-up that saw the 7800 and said for the $'s, I should move up. I am not sorry, I love the machine, but the rear 3-point control is a compromise. Good luck, the 2710 could be the compromise you are looking for.






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 03-31-2004, 13:20 Post: 81715
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I do grading with my B7500 and its up or down on the 3pt. It will drive you nuts. I am really looking at trading this one in or getting the parts on the new B7500 narrow. Its had position control. I figure it wouldn't be to hard to convert over, but the parts are going to kill me. If you don't mine a headace get the B7800. If you want it easy get the B2710.






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 03-31-2004, 16:06 Post: 81730
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Hey green, not to get in the middle of this thread, but before you spend the $'s on the position control parts ( I priced them ), I built a position indicator for my 7800 that reads out the elevation of the 3-point in front of you. It has helped a lot. If interested to find out about it, let me know.

Back on subject, look seriously at the position control on the 3-point.






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 03-31-2004, 19:43 Post: 81745
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send me some pics through my email at rookieff_MAVFC at hotmail.com I was going to do something similar if the parts was to much. Haven't priced them yet. I saw a narrow B7510 at a dealer, i might buy it change it over and sell it on ebay. thanks






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 03-31-2004, 21:09 Post: 81752
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 Help 7510 or 7800

The 7800 offers a three range transmission that you would enjoy the middle range on for the movement of dirt as it gives you more workable speed. Unless yu got the 72" deck it is a little less manuverable in tight quarters when comparing the two. The 1/4 inching valve takes the patitence to learn as the position control takes to feel comfortable with so it depends on you and where you are at.






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 03-31-2004, 23:05 Post: 81759
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Thanks for all of your replies. Although it seems that I may be happier in the immediate future with the 7800 I think I am going to stick with the 7510 that I am demoing right now and save $3500. After using it a little more I think that it will do what I need it to do, I just need to climb up the learning curve and maybe get a little more aggressive with it. I haven't tried any rear implements with it but the only thing I am really concerned about is being able to do some sort of tilling or turning of dirt. If it can't handle that I will rent something or hire it out - our local high school FFA will do it for CHEAP as long as there are not too many rocks to damage their equipment. I think the 7510 will be better for me once all of the tough work is done when it will mainly be used for mowing the lawn, moving snow a few time a year and other miscellaneous jobs around the house. I think the 7800 would be overkill in the end. I didn't sign any papers for the 7510 yet but unless someone tells me I'm making a huge mistake I will do it this weekend. Thanks again for all of your help.

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Matt
One thing you can take comfort in, is the fact that your
buying a machine that will hold its value if you decide
to swap.
I think the 7510 will do what you want, I just put a 60"
MMM on mine, and the rear blower worked great this winter.
Loader has been able to do what I want. It will pick up
more than enough to get you in trouble. Be Safe, Good luck!!






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