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 03-23-2004, 03:48 Post: 80792
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Well, I finally got to test drive "dig" with the BX23.
O H M Y G O O D N E S S ! ! WHAT A TOY! I'm completely confused now on what I thought I was going to do. I must say, and I'm not being proud, I could dig faster by hand with a shovel than this machine could. Grass-cutter, yes; carry hay bales (like in the brochure); yes; but dig your own grave? I better start now, 'cause it will take me that long. I know my opinion is skewwed because of the Bobcat rentals I had. Now THAT machine could dig! Any further posts of mine on the Kubota board will entail nothing more than grass cutting, vermiculite loading and basket weaving.
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 03-23-2004, 03:59 Post: 80793
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mattdavid I would guess you are 100% correct. But being 25 years old with a size 3 hat and a 54 jacket won't last forever.

On a really hot day with the toy you might be slow but you won't break a sweat. When you get really old "like 40" the toy will probably work ok too.

I do agree also about other machines. I use large excavators at work. But at home I still do not sweat digging a trench, stump or flower bed...

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 03-23-2004, 05:55 Post: 80796
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you also have to match apples with apples. I'm by far being an expert, I do have about many, many thousands of hours (in the last thirty years)running JOhn Deere 710 hoe's and occasionally a 160/230 excavator. I know I "want" my Bradco 511 to dig just like the 710 will. It isn't going to happen. You're running a hoe off of one pump, whatever size it is, and it will be slow digging. On my Mahindra, it has a 7.4 GPM main pump which barely would get this hoe to move,never mind dig. I now have the prototype which recently turned to a new option, PTO pump at 14 GPM, and now the hoe is awesome to run. It still is running off one pump as the big machine use three pumps. SO, even still,lacking a pump for the swing circuit, these compact tractor hoes will be slower to operate.






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 03-23-2004, 06:14 Post: 80798
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I know there will be a flood of replies defending the little BX 23 hoe; I'm glad those users are happy. My point is "my" expectations were dashed and obviously.......it will never occupy space in my barn.
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 03-23-2004, 06:19 Post: 80799
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I certainly understand as I feel every time I use my hoe, that I expect much more than it is capable of producing. I guess this is what happens when one runs the big machines. expect the same thign at home..






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 03-23-2004, 08:08 Post: 80813
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Many larger backhoe units can be run at 1/2 throttle and work fine. The BX takes at least 3/4 for backhoe work, where were you running it? There is no miracle when you run a unit that is designed as a hyraulic machine ie; skid steer vs a tractor. My expectations came from running other hoes that were comparable and the BX fits. When running a BX it doesn't do what a excavator can make short work out of. The price does have something to do with it too! There is not a better unit out there for the money anyway you look at it.






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 03-23-2004, 09:22 Post: 80824
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The last big hole (4x4 and 6 feet deep) I dug with my BX was to excavate a broken waterline.

The two plumbers I was working with had just done a similar job where it took two of them 1 and 1/2 days to dig the hole with shovels and another 1/2 day to repair the pipe and re-fill the hole.

I dug the hole with the BX in less than an hour and we did the whole job in less than one afternoon.

I think you have a hose pinched. (No not you personally... the tractor!) I had the same problem with my BX when it was new. It it real easy to do if you are not careful when mounting the backhoe.






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 03-23-2004, 19:38 Post: 80864
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Ok, now I am worried. I've settled on the BX23 and am looking forward to using the BH on my clay soil (trying to save my back). I've run heavy equipment and I know this is not the same but I was hoping that I could dig some h20 trenches etc.






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 03-23-2004, 22:30 Post: 80901
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Granite, I don't think you will be disappointed. If my BX (and my new JD46) will bust through the hardpan on my land it will do the job for you.

If you have run the big stuff you already know that with the right technique you can damn near dig solid rock.

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 03-24-2004, 03:51 Post: 80912
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mattdavid I really was not defending the little orange hoe. I was remarking about how much easier something that runs on diesel is vs a shovel.

You are right the little ones are darn right small and somewhat slow. But it is better than waiting for a contractor and much better than a wheelbarrow and shovel. But that is just my opnion.

We have guys at work making in excess of $28.00 per hour whine when they have to run a smaller machine and it takes longer to dig and they have 4-5 hours of OT to finish the job. GO FIGURE!

Granite it does take some patience to get used to the baby machines. Not many things will beat a 25+ ton excavator. Actually this miniture 4400 and 48 hoe teaches me to work smarter, check grades more often. I do not have instant movement, I can not get across trenches, won't even go into reach, only 180 degree swing. I have to do things better the first time or I end up shoveling or refilling. It's nice when there are 3-4 guys on the ground shooting grades etc. At home it's just me and my little toy. A NICE RELAXING AFTERNOON!






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