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 02-17-2004, 11:58 Post: 77142
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OK, so we are buying our first tractor. We have five relatively level acres with fairly rocky soil. Two of the acres need to be landscaped and then maintained while the remaining three (treed) acres will need periodic cleaning/maintainence and maybe some sporadic landscape work. My main uses for a tractor will be moving and grading material, snow removal (800' driveway + small office parking lot) and mowing ~two acres of grass and weeds. I would also like to have the flexibility to attach other implements such as a PHD and tillers. Probably never a backhoe but you never know. Maybe a trencher from time to time but not a major concern. I am torn between JD and Kubota. I know this is the Kubota section but I imagine a lot of green people read this area also. (If it looks like responses are favoring Kubota too much I will post this over in the Deere section also) If I go with a "smaller" CUT I will probably do the JD 2210. If I step up a little bit though I am thinking either JD 4010 (would like the 4110 but it bumps the price just out of range) or Kubota 7510 or 7610. Any opinons, thoughts, recommendations? And any comments on price? I hope to stay around 14,000 with loader and mower but I know the 7610 will bump me over that a little. Is it worth it? Thanks so much for any help with all questions.

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 02-17-2004, 12:23 Post: 77145
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I would think for what you described, the 7610 would be more along the lines of what you are looking for. I think the subcompacts are too small. Especially if you are thinking of running a post hole digger (the larger augers may even challenge the 7610 in rocky soil).






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 02-17-2004, 12:38 Post: 77147
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Stay with the small CUT. I think you would be disappointed with the JD 2210, which is sized as a garden tractor. With the implements you want to use, I think you would be disappointed with the limitations of the 3-point hitch. You would find that many implements don't work well on that hitch, for example, PHD. The lift arms are short and limits you lift height. I previouly owned a Simplicity Legacy, which was close in size to the 2210, and found it very limiting. I spent considerable time researching Kubota, JD, Kioti, and others when I made the change. My needs are close to yours nad had decided on a B2410, based on the value I found in the different makes of tractors. My wife drove the B7800 and talked me up, based on price and value. It is a great tractor, except the 3-point control. The 1/4" valve is no replacement for position control. I would suggest the JD 4115 or Kubota B2410. Both have position control. The 7510 and 7610 have the 1/4" valve. Good luck and have fun with your search. Mine lasted a year and a half.






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 02-17-2004, 12:55 Post: 77148
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Matt ,
So far you've gotten some real good advice . But, (dare I say it ? ) have you looked into the Kioto Ck series ?
They are a fairly beefy machine at a very competitive price . I own a Kub . But given the $ range you said it might be worth a look . Besides , the shopping and looking costs Squat Smile John






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 02-17-2004, 15:01 Post: 77162
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I have the 7800 as well, but I don't see the 1/4" valve as a limitation. I kinda like the setup.
I think if you could swing the extra dollars the 7800 might actually be better as it is a little bigger. It's tough to beat what you are getting for the price. I got my 7800 with loaded R-4's, 60"MMM, LA-402 FEL for around $16,900. I know that is higher than you wanted to go, but you always have to leave room for the Tim Allen (more power) syndrome!!






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 02-17-2004, 15:57 Post: 77165
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Thanks for all the great advice (Keep it coming! Smile) I was kind of thinking the 2210 would leave me wanting more, mainly because of the limited 3-point hitch (same with the Kubota BX line from what I understand). So unless my wife has something to say about it, it is out of the picture. I am now leaning towards the 7610 if we can swing it. I would love the 7800 or the Deere 4115+ but I really doubt I could get the boss to let me spend more than ~15,000-16,000 on the setup.

cerberus, I would consider looking at a Kioto except that I live in a small town and there are no local dealers that I know of. I really would like to buy locally to support the local economy and get the service and support. There is, however, a Massey-Ferg dealer in town. Any reason to look at those over the JD or Kubota? I could get what sounds like a pretty good price on a GC2300 (I think that was the model). I talked a little with a farmer that I do some consulting work for though and he said that he didn't think they were as user friendly as JD or Kub.

Thanks again for all the great advice!

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 02-17-2004, 16:19 Post: 77170
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Dealers are a problem with Kioti ... They don't have as much of a network as the Big 3 . As far as MF ... My only experience with them is an OLD 135 . It was a good machine . but it was old ( like me ). If you do however have a MF dealer , Go over and test drive a 2300 . It might be what you're looking for . I like your idea of supporting your local dealer very much . But , in the long run ,you have to ask if they'll support you . In most instances I'd say yes . But because it's not local, don't rule out other brands . Kioti, Mahindra , Branson ,century all have some good products available . It's up to you to do the research and decide what you need ,and the overall price . I guess what I'm saying is ... Don't settle on a NAME , Go with the machine that fits you ,and your needs . John






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 02-17-2004, 16:55 Post: 77173
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I'm a proud owner of a B2400HST Kubota. 5' front loader, 12" & 18" post hole digger, 50" tiller, 5' rear pto mower, 5'back blade, 7' rear gin pole,5' front mount snow blower, and more. 1470 hrs and never a major problem. Maintain 20 acres, 700' of driveways, 1/2 mile of roads through property. Have dug small pond, installed septic fields, and many other jobs that all of my neighbors could not believe I could do with such a "Tonka Toy". They are just as impressed as I am. Good luck on your choice.






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 02-17-2004, 17:41 Post: 77175
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Matt, I have a GC2300 which I use mostly for mowing (3-4 acres) and snowblowing (350' driveway and parking area). It does both tasks very well. I'm a bit frustrated with it (myself!) for not paying a little more attention to 3PH tasks--clearing snow & ice, grading with backblade for example. In a nutshell, the 3PH is somewhat limited due to no real position control (and I'm limited by unpaved, uneven surfaces). Implements are light in this size class and tend to float over compacted surfaces. Depending on how much of that type of work you're doing, you might want to give this consideration some thought. There is no backhoe attachment for the 2300. Massy's come out with the 2310 which is a TLB combo, very similar to BX22/23. I do intend to do some tilling with it, and I expect it to do well since we have a well-treated garden plot to begin with. It is a great little tractor, given these limitations. Only you know how you will aportion the tractor's time--what jobs you want to do and what priority each task has. And of course, your budget comes into play.

I have several other posts about the GC2300 on the forum if you're interested. Just do a search or view my posts. If you have any questions let me know. Good luck to you!






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 02-17-2004, 22:27 Post: 77188
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Matt,
I just moved from Vancouver, WA to the Boise ID area. I have about 3 acreas of which I am land scaping 1.5 acres. About 12000 sq ft will be in finished lawn. I looked hard at the Kubota 2230, JD 2210 and the MF 2300. Because of the 3 pt hitch limitations and low lift capacity of the FEL of the subcompacts, I decided to move up to the Kubota 7510/7610 or the NH TC21D/24D. I also looked and liked the JD 4100/4115 but they were out of my price range. I wanted to buy locally but Boise area dealers do not deal much in CUTs and most of them would not even give me a quote. I ended going back to the Portland area where there are more C
UTs in stock and the dealers were lots more customer oriented. I ended buying a NH TC24D from Keith Okamoto, Metro Tractor in Clackamas OR. I also recommend you check with Brock Brockman at Moen Machinery, the Kobota dealer in Gresham, OR. I went with the NH because I liked as well as the 7610 and Keith gave me a great trade in on my old Cub Cadet and he is delivering it to ID for the price of his diesel fuel. The cash price for the TC24D with FEL was 14,400. The cash price from Brock for the 7610 was 13,900. plus 500. for delivery but no trade in allowed. The 24D is the same hp as the 7610 but weighs about 350 lbs more. Since I am only mowing about 12,000 sq ft, I elected to take the money the MMM would cost and buy a riding lawn mower. I have two knee transplants and I just did not want to get down to hook and unhook the MMM. I am also getting a tiller for an additional 1600. I will probably add a rotary cutter later.
Forgot to tell you Metro is adding a hook to the loader and mounting a step for getting on the tractor. One more thing, I got a quote from Stark Street Garden in Sherwood of 14,400 for JD 2210 FEL,MMM and Tiller. Also a quote from Cascade Machinery in Fisher Mills of 13,900. for the MF 2310 FEL, MMM. and Tiller and a quote of 14,400 from Dan's Tractor in Battle Ground, WA for the Kubota 2230. Hope this infor might help you in your hunt. Had lots of fun looking but spent some money going back to the Portland area in order to talk and set on all the tractors. On some of the threads on Tractor Point there are some web sites listed for getting an idea of prices for JD and Kotbota.
Good Luck in your search.
Dave in Idaho.






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