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 01-02-2003, 15:53 Post: 46843
bat46
2003-01-02 15:53:19
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 So many models

Well let me just start out by saying I'm new to the world of tractors and I'm getting a education learning about them.
I have three dealers in my area JD,NH and Kubota all of them have been very helpful with my questions so I have no questions about them. I've looked at a model from each of the dealers all with the same attachments Loader,MMM and bush hog.This is the list I've come up with JD 4210, NH TC29D and Kubota 2710 or B7800. There is a price difference anywhere from 1,200.00 to 1,400.00 depending on the make. Now I know your going to ask what I plan to do with it so here goes I have 2 or 3 acres that need work from grass cutting to rock removeal and down trees and then my wife would like to work in a garden. She needs to be able to operate the tractor as well(if not more). I also have operational questions but I'll wait until my nexk post to ask thoses questions. Thank you for your ideas and comments.






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 01-02-2003, 20:55 Post: 46857
deerefan
2003-01-02 00:00:00
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 So many models

bat46,

I am in the exact same situation as you right now. I have priced the same tractors (Except NH) and priced the JD 4310 instead of 4210. I spent all day today looking and talking with dealers. I am getting pretty convinced that the B7800 is the best bang for the buck. It sure is a lot less $ than deere and has more horsepower than the 2710. Just out of curiosity, what kind of pricing are you getting?






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 01-03-2003, 05:27 Post: 46859
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 So many models

I'm in the same ballpark with almost 4 acres and a 24 pto hp tractor in a mid-80's Ford flavour.

That size gives me good service at snow removal, drive grading, trenching and material handling etc. However, there are many bushes, trees and buildings in the lawns and we use a riding mower because it's faster than maneuvering around things on the tractor and then going back to do trimming. We finish mow about an acre in each of two properties. The two gardens also are walk-behind tiller rather than tractor sized.

Most places have a range of work and a tractor grabs part of it but is less well suited to the rest. My tractor grabs the mid-sized work, which is good for us because you can't always find a contractor to work as far from town as we are.

So a tractor that handles jobs that others might contract out is good for us but that means keeping a flock of small engine gadgets around for small jobs. The arrangement works for us. However, a drawback is that I end up doing some work at our camp about 10 miles away with small engine stuff. I don't want to trailer the tractor with my 1/2-ton and I don't want drive the tractor very often on the highway.

'One size fits all' seldom works completely with tractors (many women say it doesn't work with clothing either). I'd do a think through in terms of the on-going work to do and that should indicate a good size/power/weight/tire type tractor to fit the work and keep the tractor busy. In terms of choosing a particular one, a question might be how well does the tractor fit you and your wife and how well do you like a dealer. Some seating and control arrangements work for some people but are on going aggravations for others. I'd run a few tractors around dealer yards to try the fit.






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 01-03-2003, 07:11 Post: 46862
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 So many models

First I'll like to thank you both for responding to my post. To tell you the truth after I did some price checking thats when I came across the 7800 so I didn't get the price on that, I was trying to find the difference between the two 2710 vs 7800 (any help). But to answer your question the 2710 with the attachments listed in my post it was 20k (plus 5% tax of course)NH TC29D was 21.3k and a JD 4210 was 21.7k
JD also wanted $200.00 to fill the rear tires with ballast. The NH had a sun cap $450.00 (no charge) but it had rust on the loader and the paint was chipped on the rear center lift rod. It didn't seem to big to me but my wife pointed out that I wouldn't but a new car with rust or chipped paint so why would I buy a new tractor like that.
I also feel I'll like a tractor that is over powered for my needs. The location for the use of this tractor is also just about in the middle of nowhere several miles from a town and I feel if I can do it myself I can safe money in the long run and only call a contractor in when needed.






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 01-03-2003, 08:27 Post: 46866
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 So many models

With all those choices, and the wife factor, I would shop for best long term quality and I would have her test drive it to make sure all of the controls are positioned correctly for her and she has enough strength to pull, push and twist all of the controls on that brand/model.






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 01-03-2003, 17:04 Post: 46901
deerefan
2003-01-03 00:00:00
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 So many models

Spent some time today at a Kubota dealership with the 2710 and 2910 side by side. Also had the spec sheet on the 7800 with me (they haven't received a 7800 yet). Here's what I found: 7800 is the same tractor as the 2910 with a few cosmetic differences. The seat is cheaper, the steel between the rear fenders (behind the seat)is missing on the 7800, no tilt steering, no telescopic lower links on 3pt, headlight assembly is different, and that's about it. The 7800 does have the new 1/4 inch valving on the 3pt. That allows the implement to be lowered 1/4 inch at a time when leveling, etc. (Nice feature and the guys at the shop loved it when they tested the model in Las Vegas at their Kubota convention(?).) Other than those differences they are the same tractor (as best as I can tell). I did put my hands on the 7800 yesterday and really liked it.

I was quoted a 7800 TLMMM for 17000.00 (60"Wink yeah right or 17300.00 (72"Wink yeah right. The 2410 was 16300. for same setup (60"Wink yeah right. $700 is cheap for larger frame and 6 more hp.






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 01-05-2003, 08:56 Post: 46975
bat46
2003-01-05 00:00:00
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 So many models

I just wanted to thank you guys for all the info that you posted. The 7800 is a hard item to get any info on. I called 3 or 4 dealers in two different states MA and NC and they all told me that they have not seen one yet but heard good things abou it, so with that in mind the info that was posted was very helpful. Besides the seat and headlights (both not a big concern to me at this point)how big a deal are the extender arms, remember I'm new in the tractor world and I'm getting an education with your help with that in mind. I was reading about different types of ballast systems any idea about wheel weights and will they fit on a 2710, 2910 or 7800. Now that I think about it they all use the same size wheel if I'm not mistaken.






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 01-05-2003, 13:51 Post: 46987
cy mohr
2003-01-05 00:00:00
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I have been looking for almost a year for a tractor to use on my retirement property and looked at the kubota b7500, b2410, and the b 2710. I just stopped by our local kubota dealer and saw a new b7800 which he had and was impressed with it and the cost. I think it will do anything the b2910 can do functuionaly and at a cheaper price than the b2710. I wonder if Kubota will put a big sale on the b2410 and the b2710 as I think their sales will drop with the b7800 on the marker. are they going to discontinue the b2410 and the b2710 because of this?






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