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 01-26-2009, 08:13 Post: 159824
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JUST PURCHASED A BX 25 TO CLEAR BRUSH, ROOTS, ETC. THE LARGER ROOTS I HAVE DUG UP WITH THE BACKHOE. THE SMALLER ROOTS ARE A PAIN. ANY IDEAS ON BEST WAY TO LEVEL AND GET SMALLER ROOTS UP. THE DEALER SUGGESTED A ROOT RAKE.






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 01-26-2009, 08:40 Post: 159826
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TC; I'm guessing the dealer meant a landscape rake. They do pretty good, not as good as a powered rake, but better than by hand pickup. A landscape rake is also pretty good at leveling crushed rock, moving already loose soil, and snow remeval. I don't think your tractor is big enough for a powered rake. Frank.






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 01-26-2009, 09:15 Post: 159827
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would that be better than a box blade with teeth? i'm not sure i know what a box blade is for.






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 01-26-2009, 09:22 Post: 159828
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Yes, a landscape rake would work better than a boxblade. A box blade is meant mainly to loosen soil with the teeth then pull the soil to a new place where you want to put it. I have did what you describe with a boxblade before I had a landscape rake, but it just doesn't work too well, it plugs up between the teeth with roots, etc, and brings along too much soil with thr roots. Both are good tools and one compliments the other. Frank.






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 01-26-2009, 12:35 Post: 159833
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Tcsloan,

I'm trying to draw a picture in my head.....but I'm not doing well at it.

Are the roots still intact, below the soil? Or, have they already been dug up and simply need to be removed?

If the roots are still intact, below ground level, a ripper usually works best.

A ripper is a thin, steel shank, that penetrates the ground to a depth of about 18 inches. It has a sharp knife edge at the bottom, and it simply slices through the roots. The thin shank slices right through sod, leaving only a small cut about 1 inch wide.

With several passes around the area, the roots are sliced and pulled to the surface, making them easy to remove with a landscape rake.

I've placed a link here that shows a root ripper in action, but it's attached to a tractor backhoe. Something like this can also be attached to a standard 3-point hitch, however. I made one to help remove about 100 feet of hedges. Worked great.

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 01-26-2009, 13:18 Post: 159834
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If you are talking about smaller roots that are still in the ground after removing the stump, neither a root ripper as shown above, nor a box blade with scarifiers, nor a landscape rake will do anything but get you seat time and burn up some diesel.

The only 2 practical ways to get rid of them are to mulch them in place, as with a rototiller or mulcher, or to wait for them to compost.

Once they are dead and buried they will be gone in a fairly short order.

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 01-26-2009, 13:21 Post: 159835
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Typically a root rake is a stiff, heavy-duty, vertical rake to be used on something like a dozer or skid steer--they take a lot of traction and HP to be effective as they have to cut through AND break up the soil AND dig or drag out roots.

I'm going to jump the gun a bit on Joel's questions since you haven't replied yet: If all you have are small feeder roots---no stumps of any kind or size, a boxscraper will work to shave most roots off and pile them. Running the box blade in reverse will work like a dozer to pile them up. Running the BB with the teeth down will brak up the ground but will do little to actually dislodge the roots.

A power or "Harley rake" may take a toll on the smallish machine from a vibration standpoint. HP wise on a 5' one would work; I have a 33Hp with a 6'. And it really isn't designed to remove rots; it's designed to grind materials in place sort of but not exactly like a rototiller which chops material.

A standard York or landscaping rake won't work either since the rake tends to roll the roots with the soil into a bundle then rides up and over it. Been there.

Based on the limited info provided, I would rent a 4' or 5' rotoiller, chop the soil as much as you can, let it dry out a few days, then use the boxblade going forward and reverse to work out the roots.

Also, a Harley rake in the hands of someone who hasn't used one before may get frustrated with the performance and want to go to fast or not deep enough--or too deep. If you go too deep it tends to act like a sod cutter and make large, thick ribbons of soil and roots which are then difficult to break apart.

A rototiller is the way to go-- pun intended-- no matter how you cut it.

I do a lot of residental land clearing. Every job is different as soil conditions are different too. I've also found that using a bobcat (skid steer) with a regular dirt bucket works too. If you have any stumps at all, using pallet forks on a bobcat is the easiest way to dig them out. And by setting the forks down on even ground and tipping them forward just slightly, then moving the machine side to side going forward or backward the forks will shear or rough up anything in their path (depending on weight of the machine, soil conditions, etc.)

Using the dirt bucket all the way down and tipped back just slightly going forward causes dirt and roots to accumulate. The scrubbing action of the materials stuck under the bucket causes the dirt to fall out while leaving a growing pile of compacted roots. If you find there is too much dirt that does get in the mix, simply drive backward spreading out the pile and start again.






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 01-26-2009, 13:55 Post: 159837
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EW; I know you have did lots more landscape work than I have but. I can vision a reverse tine rototiller working in roots, but my experience with a conventional forward rotation tiller was nothing but a wraped up mess of roots that had to be cleaned out about every five minutes. Enough of that. Where did I go wrong? I've did as Murf said a time or two and just put a layer of clean soil over the top and let them rest in peace.






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 01-26-2009, 14:13 Post: 159838
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I would think a forward cutting RT would be best, as like you say the oorts will get warpped around a RT or even the Harley rake which rotates the same way.

Ya haven't missed anything anything bud.

And Murf is right about rest in peace but some people can't sleep at nite knowing there's roots under them thar dirt.






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Murf's RIP is, "rot" in place. Wink yeah right






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