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 10-15-2008, 07:58 Post: 157266
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I am thinking about all that snow coming soon and would appreciate opinions on best tractor snow attachment combo. We have a 0.6 mile private road into our place and the snowfall can be quite heavy in northern Ontario.

Wondering if a B3030 with a cab and a 5 foot blower would be up to the task? I would appreciate advice here!

(FEL is only other piece of equipment that I was thinking of buying for landscaping and logging work in the bush - not sure if toothbar would be good idea.)






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 10-15-2008, 08:11 Post: 157267
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When I had lots of snow to move the three point blower with a FEL combo worked great for me. Frank.






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 10-15-2008, 09:16 Post: 157269
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First off, howdy neighbour!! Laughing out loud Welcome to the board!!

For my 2 cents worth, the novelty of clearing 3,000+ feet of driveway turned around backwards will wear off REALLY quickly. Like half way down the road making the very first pass!!

Either find a front-mounted blower, or get a conversion kit to put a regular 3pth blower out front.

Another good option is, depending on where you are, you can more than likely get a local to clear your driveway for a lot less then you can do it yourself. My lady's folks live in Muskoka and have a similar driveway as yours, a guy in town comes out with a monster front blower on a big old Russian tractor and cleans it up for them, I doubt the cost of him doing it for the last 8 years would even put a dent in the cost of a decent blower, let alone the tractor or fuel. Never mind the luxury of watching it being done from in front of the fireplace with a hot coffee in your hand!!

If you can give a little more detail as to where you are I can maybe give you some other options better suited to your area though.

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 10-15-2008, 09:17 Post: 157270
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I have the same requirement a bit south of you. The tractor will suit; consider getting tire chains. The bucket also aids front traction especially if you fill it with snow, and with a blower you need it for balance. Maybe have the dealer install a block heater.

The main decision is blower or blade. Blade is cheap and simple, but if snow is steady, eventually the snow shoulders will leave no more place to push the new stuff and you have to move them with the bucket. Blower doesn't leave shoulders but doesn't like debris like stones on the lane or tree bits blown on the lane. Blade can be pushed as well as pulled, can remove snow from around obstacles (like a house) better, and lets you operate going forward. (You have to see what you're doing, so you might be better off without a cab, at least until you're used to the operation, unless there's a front and back wiper.) If there's a dense thicket of trees close to the lane, there may be no clear place to blow. Considering all those pros and cons, I suggest you start with a blade (which you many want for summer grading anyway) and get a blower if you find you need one. If you do that, ask the dealer if the rear hitch has "power down." If not, you may want to weight the blade; I just attached a piece of heavy angle-iron to mine.

A bucket is more for transporting than for excavating unless it's like a pile of topsoil or gravel. Teeth might help, and a grapple device might make a difference, depending on your requirements. Or a box blade. Maybe have the dealer come out and advise.






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 10-15-2008, 11:46 Post: 157272
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I'm with Murf on this one.

Blowing a driveway a half-mile long, while turned around in the seat, will cause all kinds of neck pain, headaches, etc. Blowing while traveling in reverse, that far, is literally A PAIN IN THE NECK.

The B3030 with a front mounted blower will be a far better option for you, but you'll have to be diligent about picking up any fallen branches between snow events.

I also agree that it would be far cheaper to hire the work done, but I understand the difficulty with this, as well. The guy won't show up on time, or his equipment may be used at some other location, causing you to have to wait until he has enough time to make it over to your place.

In areas with heavy snowfall, I would shy away from the blade. You'll quickly run out of places to put the snow. Your driveway will eventually end up being four feet wide. A blower will keep the snow away from the driveway, preventing the wind from drifting the driveway full.

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 10-15-2008, 13:09 Post: 157276
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Wow - that was quick feedback! Smile Thanks gang.

I just returned from the Kubota dealership in Bracebridge and saw a B3030 HSDC (with cab) and front mounted 63 in. wide snowblower. Looks like a comfy solution that will allow me to drive forward.

Since I have read here that this tractor tends to be a bit 'light in the pants' I am thinking more about adding a 72 in. rear blade, partly as a counterbalance, rather than weighting the tires or using a balast box. Not sure about the need for chains - maybe will try it out 1st without them.

We have investigated getting the plowing done but then as you all say this presents its own challenges...on balance probably better to just do it myself...and if it is not done then I know whom to blame! Tnx!






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 10-15-2008, 14:59 Post: 157279
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Ok, now we're getting somewhere.

I know exactly what you are dealing with, I have a place over at Port Carling, 'heavy snow' can be an understatement!! When those winds push the moisture in off Georgian Bay it's hibernation time! Laughing out loud

I wouldn't too excited about using the blade as a counter balance, for several reasons, first and foremost, weight, the rear blade just doesn't weigh enough. Also, you want a counter balance that won't interfere with your moving around so it must be close in to the back of the tractor, the added width will be a PITA too. A box blade is a little better size-wise but not by much, it will be better for summer use on your driveway though.

If you search through the archives there's a lot of good info on how to make a drawbar and a plastic barrel (filled with concrete) into a first class weight block. Total cost about $50 and an hours time.

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 10-15-2008, 16:27 Post: 157284
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Having formerly done commercial snow plowing with strictly a truck and plow, I tend to be the lone voice here when it comes to not using a tractor for plowing. IMHO, a nice warm 'n cozy plow truck listening to the radio plowing a long drive makes it short work.

I now use a big skid steer on steel tracks equipped with a rigid, power-angling straight blade from a plow truck to maiantain my mile of private road, and plow the neighbros' drives too. And it has an enclosed cab with heat. Given a choice, I'd MUCH rather be in truck which is 3-4 times faster

Now, keep in mind we only get 36-42" of snow here so blowers are really not used here, nor is having high embankments of snow an issue. And with "global warming" we only get about 6 snow events a season anyway, and then it usually melts soon after.

If you have the inclination and the money, look ino a V-plow which allows you to push as much as 3-4 yards of snow at a time and pile higher than most FELs can reach (depending on the type of snow).






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 10-15-2008, 16:41 Post: 157285
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Now, keep in mind we only get 36-42" of snow here so blowers are really not used here, nor is having high embankments of snow an issue.



Jeff, with where the OP & my summer place are, when a storm comes out of the north-west, there's nothing but 200+ miles of Lake Huron, beyond that is that much more again of Lake Superior.

36" - 42" of snow is ONE good storm up there if you count the drifting that follows the storm itself.

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 10-15-2008, 17:54 Post: 157287
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Murf I was going to mention that about your area. My cousin lives near Traverse City. MI. He said the first year he lived there they had 6' in one snowfall---looked like your avitar of the "outdoor beer cooler"--- and had to leave his home from the second floor.






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