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 03-26-2005, 13:49 Post: 108791
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 Which to buy BX2200 Deer 2210 Simplicity XL - they re all about 15k

I've got it narrowed down to three and was hoping to get some help/thoughts on which is the better tractor, or at least a reason to steer clear of a particular brand.

I have 3-4 acress or hilly terrain to mow, need 4x4, big deck and loader.

The Deer 2210 will run me $14600 (with loader and 62" deck). 3 cylinder diesel 23 HP. 3-point hitch.

Simplicity XL - 27hp diesel (with loader and 60" deck). $15k

Kubita BX2200 - 22hp diesel - waiting on a price, probably about the same.

They are all very similiar. I'm partial to the Simplicity as it rides like a Cadilac and is so easy to use my wife could drive it, and they're closer, but it's more expensive and probably has the weakest frame (listed as steel channel). The hitches on all three are "limited" so it will take careful planning to add a tiller or snowblower.

How important is it to compare lift capacities, PTO rpms?

Why wouldn't I just get the Deer. It's a fine tractor.

Then there's the Kubota, another fine tractor, but the mower deck isn't on par with the simplicity.

Either one I get, I'll baby it and run it for 20 years. But to choose...

My current tractor is a 30 year old Gravely 400 commericial grade with a front pto bush-hog and dozer blade. It's still going strong.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

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 03-26-2005, 14:02 Post: 108792
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 Which to buy BX2200 Deer 2210 Simplicity XL - they re all about 15k

My thoughts, the Simplicity is not any where close to the same class as the Deere or Kobota. I have a bx22. I just today looked at a Deere 2210 at the home show. I would buy the Deere.






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 03-26-2005, 21:52 Post: 108818
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 Which to buy BX2200 Deer 2210 Simplicity XL - they re all about 15k

Yeah they're asking an arm and a leg for the simplicity. They're banking on their 20 year rep. This is the only compact tractor model, so I'm a bit sceptacle of the design. But it drives nice, almost too nice for what I want to do with it.

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 03-26-2005, 22:25 Post: 108822
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 Which to buy BX2200 Deer 2210 Simplicity XL - they re all about 15k

My opinion is the simplicity is way over priced for what it is. Kubota stopped making the bx2200 and it is now the bx2230. I have a 2200 and it is a great machine. So simple to use that the wife can use it. The Kubota relaibility is there. I think you pay too much for the green paint. The JD is a great machine too but I like the fact that the kubota is all kubota right down to the engine.

My opinion and opinion only is to stay clear of the simplicity. Great lawn tractors but too new to the bigger version. Go with the best dealer of the JD or Kubota and try both of them out. You can't go wrong. It's like a debate over Nissan and Toyota. Pick a good dealer and price and it will last if you take care of it.






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 03-27-2005, 18:01 Post: 108865
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1*The Deer 2210 will run me $14600 (with loader and 62" deck). 3 cylinder diesel 23 HP. 3-point hitch
2*Simplicity XL - 27hp diesel (with loader and 60" deck). $15k
3*Kubita BX2200 - 22hp diesel - waiting on a price, probably about the same.
4*They are all very similar.

5*I'm partial to the Simplicity as it rides like a Caddy and is so easy to use my wife could drive it,
6*but it's more expensive and
7* probably has the weakest frame.

8*Then there's the Kubota, another fine tractor, but the mower deck isn't on a par with the simplicity
9*Yeah they're asking an arm and a leg for the simplicity.
10*They're banking on their 20 year rep.

11*This is the only compact tractor model,

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First we need to get some things clear as you are comparing apples to oranges with a pear or 2 thrown in here and there. You are not comparing 3 tractors from the same class; you are comparing 3 different classes against each other.

1*The Deer 2210 is a sub compact tractor and at 14600 is 2800 more than the 11800 I paid for my Kubota BX 23 sub compact with a loader & 60' mower I also added 3700 for the BH on my Kubota bring the total I paid to 15500. Adding 3700 for a back hoe to the 14600 JD brings the cost of the JD equipped like my Kubota to 18300.
2*The Simplicity XL is a Lawn and Garden Tractor which is a step down to a class below the sub compact class. I tested and drove it before buying the Kubota Bx 23.
The back hoe for it was over 6000 now you're looking at 21000 .
One problem with the Simplicity Is to many items are extra cost items ; Even the ROPS and the diesel engine.
By the time I specked one out equipped like my Kubota It cost over 21000 compared to the 15500 for the BX23 so I went with the Kubota.
I just couldn't see paying more Than a Lincoln for a Ford when I could have the Lincoln for less!
3*As you can see in my case the Kobota was a lot less than either of the other 2.
4* Not really as lawn and garden, Sub compact and compact aren't the same.

5*Would you mow your lawn and do yard work with a Caddy?
The BX drives and rides fine and I would imagine the JD does like wise. Don't see why any lady couldn't drive any 1 of the three.
6*Tell me about it.
7*Garden tractors aren't built like Sub compacts and compacts.

8*What makes you think that? I see nothing wrong with mine- does a real nice job.
9*Especelly when they are charging as much or more for a garden tractor as the other 2 brands are selling sub compacts for.
10*What do they have to brag about ? 20 years is much shorter than either Kubota or JD.

11*Wrong It's the only lawn and garden tractor. The other 2 are Sub Compacts.
None of the 3 tractors are compacts.








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 03-27-2005, 19:03 Post: 108870
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fantastic response I must say mr Brown!






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 03-27-2005, 21:22 Post: 108885
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The new Legacy XL is a lot closer to the BX and the 2210 than most peaple think. We owned a Simplicity Legacy a while back before the XL version was born. They make lack some experience in the Utility tractor market, but it worth noting that Simplicity and Agco are cousins. Simplicity can draw a lot of experience from that relationship.

I haven't been on the new Legacy XL, but if the same quality goes into the XL that went into the older Legacy, it would be one fine machine. The fit-finish and overall quality was every bit as good as the the Kubotas I've had, and that says a lot in my book since I really like the Botas (IMHO). The people at Simplicity (corporate) where very professinal and helped us make some serious modifications to the old Legacy we had.

I don't recommend one over the other, just suggest they are worth a look. Simplicty has always made good equipment, and they are completely manufactured in the States.






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 03-27-2005, 21:50 Post: 108890
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Who's motor/tranny is Simplicity using? I don't think they make their own, do they?






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 03-27-2005, 22:02 Post: 108892
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Haven't checked in a while, but it used to be Kohler Command air cooled gas, or Briggs-Stratton diesel. There may have been a Kawasaki liquid cooled gas, that chunk wouldn't have been homegrown. Not sure who made their hydros, the people in corporate talked like it was their own.

Their Loaders and Backhoes were manufactured by KW Manufacturing in Kansas. They used to do their own, but started outsourcing some time in the 90's I think.






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 03-27-2005, 22:10 Post: 108893
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> "The Deer 2210 will run me $14600 "

I bought my BX23 last summer including MMM & BH for about that price +/-. Wait and see what price Kubota actually quotes you.

Unless you're paying cash, also figure the financing into the total cost (kubota is 0% again I've heard)






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