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 01-07-2005, 22:32 Post: 103791
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My BX2200 book says I can use either Super UDT or SAE80 or SAE90. Go figure. One extreme to the other if you ask me. My front axle seals are leaking on the machine and I was considering putting in the thicker gear oild to see if it slows it down rather than go through the hassle of tearing it down. Has anyone switched from UDT to gear oil? If you have any issues?

Seems strange you can swap fluids od such different viscosities? Happy Friday..Jim






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 01-08-2005, 01:18 Post: 103797
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I switched to 80w-90. It works fine. My seals did not leak at all with either. My dealer recomended the gear oil as they did have a few tractors that were weeping with UDT.

In my opinion gear oil is better for the gears. Much greater film strenth.

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 01-08-2005, 06:28 Post: 103799
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Our first step is to go to the gear oil when we see weeping. Sometimes it is just some debris that might have gotten into the seal to hold it open.






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 01-08-2005, 08:05 Post: 103800
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Art, if you remember, several weeks ago I posted and the seal was leaking then it repaired itself and this is what you told me. I thought it was good as new now it started again and the other side is leaking a little. I'm going to try the gear oil seeing it seems it should be ok for the front axle, just seems strange you can put two entirely differnt fluids in there but I guess it's not like a hydro pump where it has to be close to the same viscosity. Gears have much more clearance for the thicker oil I would assume is the case.

On that note, my scag hydro came through with hydro oil in it and you can put pretty much anything in there, dexron, hydro oil, 10w30, 20w50 or even straight 30. I almost think you can dump the Costco big jug of olive oil in my scag and it will run on it.

I called the local dealer to see if there was anything they could do as far as a possible silent recall and they are researching it. (5 days of research now and no call back). It's probably too old year wise to do anything being a 2000 or 2001 but 282 hours and leaks like this shouldn't go hand in hand.






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 01-08-2005, 08:46 Post: 103801
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I know better then what your dealer told you as the scags just like every other hydro transaxle has it's preference for longevity!






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 01-09-2005, 20:19 Post: 103864
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I have a L2500DT and if changing the pivot seal is anything like mine then its a piece of cake and about 30.00 per seal. I changed mine and am using 90 wt with no problems........rc






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 01-09-2005, 21:01 Post: 103868
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That's good news, I'll order the seals and try it myself. I looked at the parts break down and it doesn't look too bad.

that is where it's leaking from.






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 01-10-2005, 08:44 Post: 103890
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Over the years we have pretty much figured out that a lot of 'leaks' in Kubota front axles are in fact caused by merely expansion.

When a machine spends an extended period of time parked in extreme cold temp's the axle is aclimatized and everything has shrunk to it's absolute minimum. As soon as you get the machine moving two problems arise, first the seals are hard, and the axle is very cold. As soon as the machine starts to warm up the oil is the first thing to expand, this seems to force oil out past the seals.

We have experimented with 'leaky' axles in the past. We put a magnetic heater on the sump and the 'leak' stopped.

We also discovered that the stuff that Lucas Oil Products sells is top notch stuff and will also stop a lot of this.

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 01-10-2005, 18:32 Post: 103930
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Murf, before I tear it apart for no reason what Lucas product or products do you suggest I try for the front axle fluid or additive?

Also, is there a good mail order place to get them?

Thanks for the reply...Jim






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 01-10-2005, 22:56 Post: 103961
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There are several 75w-90 and 80w-90 synthetic gear lubes on the market now.

Given the tiny capacity of the front axle and the snowy New England winters, it might be something you should consider.

There is a significant difference in the pour point between synthetic gear lube and dino gear lube.






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