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 08-20-2004, 10:09 Post: 93925
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Hi Folks,
I am thinking of a new tractor. I have 80 acres (50 woods/30CRP) and a half mile long driveway in west central Wisconsin. Currently using a 2wd 2440 with a 7' FarmKing rear mount blower for snow but the rear mount mower screws up my neck and my wife doesn't like to use it. The clutch and tranny on the 2440 are starting to get hinky. Looking at a 2210 with the front mount blower. Also like the smaller 4wd tractor for clipping CRP weeds and getting firewood out of the coulee. Any comments?

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 08-20-2004, 10:44 Post: 93927
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Rich, the 2210 is a great machine but it is more along the lines of a subcompact tractor. You can get by and get most jobs done but I think you will be at the limits of the 2210. I currently use a Deere 4410 for doing pretty much what you mention with the exception of snow blowing which I am sure the 4410 can do easily. I am not saying you NEED a 4410 but you may want to consider the 4110 or 4115 if you can afford the extra cost of the 4115. For the size acreage you mention; my suggestion would be for the 4310 or 4410 which offer you a wide range of task capability and the pto hp for just about any job that comes to mind. With the eHydro transmission; your wife can EASILY operate any of these tractors. I think you will love the 72" MMM on a 4310 or 4410 which will give you a very productive finish mowing capability and they are built like tanks (7 gauge steel forged deck). The 430 FEL will also be a big plus for your use on your 80 acres. If your budget does not accomodate the 4000 Ten Series machines. Take a look at the 90 Series compact tractors. The 790 and 990 are very basic but pretty much bullet proof machines. The wife may not be to comfortable on these though; but with some coaching and training, I think she would quickly be at ease on these as well. Can you get by with the 2210? Sure. Bear in mind that for the price of the 2210; you are nearly at the cost of a 4110. The 2210 is a good capable machine but the 4000 Ten Series are that much more capable for not a lot more money.






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 08-20-2004, 11:03 Post: 93931
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Chief,
Thanks for the info. I am thinking along the same lines, that the 2210 may not be quite enough tractor. My local dealer tells me that the 4000 twenty series is likely to be the most long term line. the 4000 ten's will be phased out, kind of like they do with the ag tractor lines, 20, 30, 40 50, etc.

I have thought of the 90 series but i really like an independent PTO.

I will price out a 4110 or 4115.

Coming from a long line of farmers that only see green when talking about tractors I still have to ask what people think of NH stuff. Seems like a comparable line of compacts. What do you think?

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 08-20-2004, 11:15 Post: 93932
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New Holland makes a good machine as well but my preference for an alternate choice would be for Kubota. I have owned both and Kubota makes a good machine that will not disappoint you. The L3130 through L4330 comes to mind with respect to the machine you are interested in. The John Deere 4000 Twenty Series tractors are very nice machines but very large for a compact tractor. You salesman may not have the correct info. on the 4000 Ten Series tractors. At least for 2004, the 4010, 4110, 4115, 4210, 4310 and 4410 models will still remain in production, while the 4510, 4610 and 4710 have been discontinued and replaced by the 4000 Twenty series.

Over all, I would strongly recommend that you demo ALL of the brands and models you think you may have an interest in and make an informed choice based on YOUR first hand impressions and observations. Whether it be Green, Blue, Orange or whatever color, you must be satified with it.






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 08-20-2004, 12:05 Post: 93940
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I also looked at the 2210 tractor and dismissed it as a pumped up garden tractor. I'd say you need to start with a list of "must do" capabilities for the tractor and then "nice to do" capabilities. I'm in Iowa and don't use a blower due to gigantic stones used on the driveway. Critical things for me were hydrostat for the wife, 4 wd for clearing snow, running a big mower deck (72" belly), a loader that put stuff into the back of my F250, enough mass to bust through 4 to 5 foot snow drifts and new enough that I shouldn't have to worry about reliability.

As far as manufacturers go, from what I've seen the top dogs are Deere and Kubota. I think both make pretty good tractors. Take a look at both. See what fits you best. Which one's controls fit your body best. If you are going to spend the money, take the time for research. Other questions to consider are terrain based questions like any hills? Takes more power to go uphill while working. Also consider what would really upset you if it didn't perform that function well.

FYI - my new JD 4310 is supposed to be delivered today. Yeah!!






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 08-20-2004, 12:07 Post: 93941
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rich, you mentioned the JD 90 series, which must mean you would consider going with a non hydrostatic machine. This is not something I would even consider. You want to blow snow and let your wife use it. My wife loves the hydro as I suspect yours would. I don't think gear is nearly as good for blowing snow (or anything else for that matter) since the speed is critical due to varying depths as well as the proper RPM. This is almost infinite with a hydro.






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 08-20-2004, 12:37 Post: 93945
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Hey neighbor, I'm just six miles downriver from you.

I've found my 30+ HP tractor is just about right for 90 acres. I suppose that would mean a 43xx or 44xx in the JD line. If you do consider Kubota, I've always been treated well when I go to the dealer in Menomonie. I don't know how their tractor prices compare though.
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 08-20-2004, 13:09 Post: 93949
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Hey Shortmagmum,
Thanks for the good info. I checked out your pictures. Is that a special log grapple on your loader? How is the Kubota on hills. You probably have the same sort of terrrain I do.
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 08-20-2004, 14:04 Post: 93955
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Mr. Rparch-

I just want to comment on how nice a person you must be to buy your wife a new tractor. I bought mine a used JD 970 and a Trail Gator to go with it. She prefers the Gator so I usually only get to use the 970.








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Toller,
My ulterior motive is that then she can help plow the driveway on cold winter mornings while I get ready for work. Smile

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