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 11-26-2003, 15:26 Post: 69711
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I have 70 acres of Texas pararie to mow and care for and looking at 40-60 hp John Deere or Kubota with front end loaders. Specifically the Kubota M4900 (4wd) and Deere 5103 (2wd). I have three basic questions: How important is 4wd to the weekend farmer? Second, how critical is a synchronized trans with shuttle option? The Deere doesn't offer this as an option in this model and the next model up comes with a very hefty price increase (still w/o shuttle option but you can get it). Finally, any thoughts on the pros and cons of paint color? Is there any reason to choose one manufacturer over another beyond personal preference? Thanks






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 11-26-2003, 15:44 Post: 69712
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2 wheel drive with a loader naw! Loader without a shuttle Naw!!! not hard to answer and I can't wait to see all the posts on this one!!!






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 11-26-2003, 15:47 Post: 69713
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Forgot about the reliability, Kubota has the best hands down with the rest right behind them. Why don't you look at the MX5000 Kubota which is also a economy tractor like the 5103






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 11-26-2003, 18:23 Post: 69723
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wacojohn, welcome to the board! First off you are comparing apples and oranges. The John Deere 5220 is a pretty even, valid comparison, both make about the same hp. & pto hp numbers.

A 5220 MFWD equipped with the following:

12F/12R PowrReverser
Isolated Open Station Platform
Horizontal Side Exhaust
Standard R-1 tires
Dual Rear SCV with Lever Controls
Dual Mid SCV with Joystick Control
Rockshaft with Telescoping Draft Links

Is going to put you in the $27,000 price range and maybe $500 less if you can cut a really good deal. John Deere is offering some very enticing incentives as well. You can go the the John Deere & Kubota web sight and compare these tractors and see exactly what you are getting for the money spent. The 5220 above is a very nice package and comes with a LOT of goodies and more gears to choose from not that this is always such a big deal.

The M4900 is a very nice tractor as well. Art can tell about the price better than I can. The M4900 comes fairly comparably equipped but not completely like the JD.

Best advice I can give you is to demo out both of these models and go with the tractor that tickles your fancy. I would also pay close attention to the dealer and their support attitudes and logistics capability. Who offers the best after sale support?

If the the 5103 2WD is all that is available to you or is the limit as far a price. Well, that makes it easy, go with the orange paint. I think if you make a valid heads up comparable option detailed analysis, the prices may be closer than you originally were thinking. Above all the tractor must be able to efficiently do what you have planned for it reguardless of the price range. Get what is going to work best for you the FIRST time. May mean spending a little extra but if you are like most folks; you will keep this tractor for many years if not a life time. My high school buddy still owns his 1977 2010 he purchased new and loves it.

The 5103 is John Deere's bottom of the line "value" ag tractors which is a basic 2WD ag tractor. That would put you in the $12,000 price range with a few hyd. and hitch options. If you plan to mount a loader, you will hate this tractor. Art is correct about the 4WD and shuttle shift.

You pay for what you get so shop carefully and look closely at the features both tractors offer. Good luck!







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 11-27-2003, 10:15 Post: 69783
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Here is some John Deere poop on the 5220.






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 11-27-2003, 10:22 Post: 69784
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Here are the latest incentives John Deere is offering on the 5220.






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 11-27-2003, 10:27 Post: 69787
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More special offers for ag use.






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I looked a bit more and found you can get a 5205 MFWD (8F/4R SyncReverser™ transmission is standard equipment)equipped with the following:

Folding ROPS
16.9-28 In. 6PR R1 Bias rear tires
9.5-24 In. 6PR R1 Bias
Dual Rear SCV with Detented Float and Lever Controls
Dual Mid SCV with Joystick Control
Telescoping Draft Links

That would put you in the $22,500 to $23,500 price range and still pretty much have all of the features the M4900 offers but just not as many bells and whistles as the 5220.

Does this get you to the price range you were considering?






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 11-27-2003, 16:25 Post: 69799
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Kubota's transmission does offer a hydraulic reverse which is real sweet to use with the loader. They also are offering 0% interest on some deals on the M series tractors.






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"Kubota has the best hands down with the rest right behind them." I would like to see this reliability data for Kubota. Do you have a link for the independent reliability study for all of these tractors? They make good products; wouldn't surprise me.






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