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 08-06-2004, 10:18 Post: 92873
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I just got finished having a somewhat heated discussion with a buddy of mine who is in the midst of importing a Jinma/Benya/TongFeng or some other chinese tractor for the sole reason of price. Now don't misunderstand me, I'm not talking about him buying a Chinese-mobile from a local dealer and getting some support. I'm talking IMPORT:paying broker fees, assembling it (or rather having ME assemble it) the whole deal. The parts will have to come direct from China or be sent purolator from the closest dealer (20hours away). Why do people only look at price and not TCO?






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to finish my thought, he could have bought a same spec Green Blue or Orange for a mere $4g's more (canadian). He even could have even gone with Kioti, Mahindra or CC and saved some coin. But in my humble opinion when it is all said and ten years from now when he goes to sell it he will be more money out than if he looked at other factors. Thoughts?






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Chance is high that will happen.






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Do you remember how many Ponys & Excels Hyundai sold, or how many Lada's, Skoda's and Samaras there used to be?

Ever think about how quickly they disappeared?

There is a certain percentage of the population that will ALWAYS buy based on price point alone. Period.

Low price rarely equates to economy, unfortunately that is NOT a widely held opinion.

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sad but true. being cheap can really bite you in the butt.






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MURF,,dont forget the "YUGO",,or maybe a Belarus,,,,Laughing out loud






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Yugo's I will go along with.

A Belarus however is a really rugged well-built tractor, way heavier than North American farmers would tolerate, but nearly bullet-proof. They have some nifty features that ours still don't have, like a fuel tank mounted down low, with a filler cap that's at about the same height as that on a pickup, and a 3pth equipped with powered down-pressure.

Go just about anywhere they use tractors for forestry work and I'm sure you will find plenty of them working away.

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Murf......you ARE kidding about the Belarus.......right??? ;o)






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Actually Randy, no I wasn't, I was skeptical at first also. A lot of farmers around here bought Russian tractors because they were cheap power, for things like running irrigation pumps, pulling wagons or spreaders, blowing snow. The sort of stuff that just about anything can do, including miltary surplus trucks, Laughing out loud.

Most of them turned out to be useless junk, Zetors for instance turned out to be very unreliable and hard to find parts for. In true Russian fashion, just like with the Lada (Russian for Fiat), they took something good and butchered it through terrible production and support.

The Belarus however, and another one from Yugoslavia, the name of which escapes me, were actually decent machines.

There are several large dealers up here who sell & maintain a LOT of them, just north of here there is a lrge area where forestry is the predominant home industry. There are very few tractors working in the bush up ther that AREN'T Belarus's. They are built like a T-34 with rubber tires instead of tracks.

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Actually my experiences and impressions of Belarus tractors was from experiences several years ago. Perhaps they have gotten a handle on quality of materials and workmanship since then but the Belarus's I looked at were rusting pieces of oil leaking junk and these were new tractors I was looking at. The rubber trim and weather stripping on the cabs was falling apart on these new machines as well as the tires too; they appeared to be dry rotted. The Belarus my uncle had was not much better. I believe he ended up getting ride of it. That was back in the early and mid 90's. I have never went back for another look since. Maybe they have gotten there quality of production improved. I'll take another look.






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