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 09-28-2003, 19:58 Post: 65036
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The J.D. 790 as far as I know has always been advertised having 30 H.P. I recently stopped at the dealership and it now has an advertised H.P. of only 27. The salesman told me he didn't know the reason for the change. Anybody out there have an idea?






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 09-28-2003, 20:47 Post: 65041
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The transmission assembly of that tractor was originally used on the 750 which was 20 hp, In 98 they made the 790 with 30 hp. To me this seem like a big boost, maybe they have been having some problems with the transmissions or differentials and decided to detune a little?
To me the brakes are a little weak for the power.






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 09-28-2003, 21:42 Post: 65043
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I think the engine specs changed due to emissions requirements a while back. Later tractors are 27hp, and have a different model engine than the early ones. I think the engine is the same size, etc though. We caught that too, and our saleman called JD about it to verify. I doubt anyone would miss 3hp anyway, and I've found Yanmar's conservative in ratings to boot.

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 09-29-2003, 22:24 Post: 65110
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Tractor has plenty of power but the motor shrunk and the hp went from 30/25 to 27/24.

I know.... I was one of the ones who ordered under the old specs. but took delivery under the new. I was not happy at first but soon realized the tractor has PLENTY of power for the size and weight.

Great tractor and I would buy it again.






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 09-30-2003, 05:53 Post: 65116
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Thanks for clearing up the H.P. issue with the 790. I have a 770 and love it and thought the only real difference between it and the 790 was H.P. Thanks guys for all your input!






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 09-30-2003, 08:53 Post: 65140
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There are actually three numbers Deere publishes for the 790: Gross, Net and PTO horsepower.

Deere has begun to publish these figures for all the small tractors, although with most the difference between Gross and Net HP is about 1/2HP, not the 3 horse drop listed for the 790.

I have to say I do not understand the distinction, maybe Gross is engine output and Net is what you get at the wheels?






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 10-04-2003, 18:34 Post: 65579
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My local John Deere dealer just informed me that the recent 790 tractor has the same engine as the 4210 has. It used to have a the 4300 engine. He claims that literature and info on the J.D. website are current with production. That means that the new 790 has less cubit inches than my 770 and older 790's. Deere could be looking at some lawsuits for those who bought tractors under false specs. You may say that 3 hp isn't much but it can be when you only start with 27. I dissappoited that J.D. is trying to pull a fast one!






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 10-04-2003, 20:10 Post: 65582
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3 HP may not sound like much, but try upsizing a new machine by 3 HP and there is a considerable increase in price !






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I don't like the fact the JD derated the horsepower on the 790 but I'll bet the brochure for that machine contains a disclaimer stating that they reserve the right to change specs at anytime. The problem is that JD didn't make that clear to buyers that the change was coming so some folks bought one machine and got another. That doesn't seem right.






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 10-04-2003, 20:33 Post: 65586
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I agree, it sure looks like John Deere shot themself in the foot on this issue. I'll do some checking around and see what I can find out from my buddy what is up with this. You would think that they would at least offer to turn up the injection pump to get the hp back to somewhere near where is was before but in some cases, that is not practical. Or other changes were made in the power train that will not support an engine up rate.






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