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 11-11-2004, 18:48 Post: 100237
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I had to join after reading the posting about the 4200 that does not always start. I bought this tractor in the spring with 230Hrs and it has run great until a month ago when it just will not start at times. This week it will not start at all. It cranks over just fine but acts like it is not getting fuel. Two JD dealers said they have never heard of this problem with such low hours. After I saw the posting suggesting the fuel valve solenoid I called a third JD dealer and they confirmed this is a known problem. I'll pull it this weekend and check it out.






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 11-12-2004, 09:59 Post: 100263
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Both times my 2 Yanmar engines did this was fall/winter season change with high humidity and cold temps. the first needed no repairs, just wd 40, the second,my 4300 hasn't done it again and I didn't lube it yet. I'm waiting to see if it does it again. Let me know how you make out.






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 11-12-2004, 21:07 Post: 100281
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 My 4300 will not start

jdmaine, I have a jd 110tlb, had two as a matter of fact. They have the 4 cyl 43 hp yanmar and I would say the same electronics. My first went back after 15 hours and 5 brake downs never to be seen again, the second broke down in 3 hours.Twice on the first machine was the selanoid, no loud clunck just a tick. Then it was sensors in the trap door under the stearing colume. The second machine was sensors too. It now has 218 or so hours and no problems with electric. It's kinda scary when you back out into a road and it quits right on the center line.






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 11-13-2004, 04:40 Post: 100290
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 My 4300 will not start

Just my thought. B4U start chasing expensive stuff have you did the basics? Water? Fuel filter? Other stuff that might cause a fuel blockage?

Water or moisture is the most often cause of starting problems on these and is the most over looked.






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 11-13-2004, 16:56 Post: 100304
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Today pulled the solenoid back and tractor started right up. Pulled the solenoid out and the shaft was frozen and full of a very black grease. I cleaned the shaft several times with WD40 and worked the grease out and it works fine. Does anyone know if this grease is old diesel buildup? Ran the tractor all day and got some chores done. Thanks for all the suggestions and what a great web site!






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 11-13-2004, 18:00 Post: 100306
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I don't believe it is diesel, if the black stuff could be diesel, you would have leakage all over the place, and black stuff everywhere, not just a shaft that has no access to diesel. Glad you got it working.






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 11-14-2004, 17:10 Post: 100322
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Well, my 4300 failed to start today. Clicking the key several times got no solenoid action. Glad I don't have huge fingers, pulling the bugger was a tight fit. I think I know what your thick black grease was, Motor oil. I didn't realize it was internally mounted to the injection pump, My others are divorced and move a lever on the pump. When I pulled mine, there was an O-ring gasket and a little motor oil ran out.






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 11-14-2004, 17:16 Post: 100324
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While it was out, I operated the key several times. The shaft pulled back momentarily, then pushed out again. It was full of motor oil, normal looking, not thick or greasy. I decided to push hard with my finger on the shaft. About 1 teaspoon of oil ran out and the thing worked fine after that. I put it back in and ran it numerous times.






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 11-14-2004, 17:20 Post: 100325
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One or both of us may have a problem if these are the same pumps. I have a feeling they are supposed to have oil around the shaft but not behind the solenoid preventing it from working. If they are to have oil why doesn't yours. I am lucky enough to have a Yanmar repair tech just up the road and I will be asking him for a non JD opinion.






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 11-14-2004, 18:54 Post: 100331
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To denwood, When your Yanmar tech fills you in let me know what is going on. Good thing I can get this going myself because I can't get any JD techs to make house calls. Seem like they want just easy jobs back at the shop. These solenoid assys seem like a problem that JD needs to address. My tractor ran all day today. I'm back in business. Thanks






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