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 07-27-2006, 12:19 Post: 132713
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Tractor Guys,

Anybody use a Dixie Chopper? I saw a video and display once, and it looked good, but never see any in use.

My situation is I'm going to be in charge of mowing the family farm. There is an apple orchard and grape vines, several other trees, about 2 acres of smooth lawn, fencelines, several buildings, and another 3 acres or so of fields. I'll be using a farm tractor and bush hog for the near future, but wouldn't mind something more maneuverable and with a better quality of cut.

I'll be looking for something fast and comfortable to leave there...no hauling it around.

Any advice would be appreciated.

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 07-27-2006, 12:34 Post: 132714
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Bill,

The dealership where I purchased my Bush Hog ZTR also carries the Dixie Chopper. One of their guys who does a lot of work with Golf Courses uses a Dixie Chopper and is pleased with it. The dealership seems to be very pleased with the service they are getting form those machines. It is my understanding they starting carrying them in addition to the Bush Hog as they cost less. They do offer a lot of models.

As to the speed they tell you they will cut at, it sure better be a smooth lawn.

Our yard is much like you described and my ztr cut my mowing time by 25% plus decreased the amount of trimmer work. I was using tractor and RFM.






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 07-27-2006, 13:04 Post: 132719
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How do you like that Bush Hog ZTR?

I do have a BH dealer in town, and have sat on the ZTR and made "vroom-vroom" noises a few times.

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 07-27-2006, 13:32 Post: 132720
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Bill, when I read "another 3 acres or so of fields", I think just what Kenneth stated, "it sure better be a smooth lawn"!!

As you know we cut a *lot* of grass, when I have people ask me, "You're in the grass business, what should I look for in a mower?" my answer is always the same.

BIG WHEELS!!!!

Those little caster wheels (usually 4" tires) on most ZTR mowers are just brutal on anything but the flatest of ground. If they don't shake you to death, they will the mower itself!!

After trying just about everything out there I have sort of come to the following conclusions;

- FMM 3 wheelers, about the best all-round choice, big wheels, big power, nice cut, very manueverable, reasonable price.

- FMM ZTR's, fast cut, highly manueverable, but they will shred a lawn in the hands of a rookie, nice cut, expensive.

- FMM 4 wheelers, fast cut, option of 4WD, manueverable, but not as much as the 2 above, cab option available, probably most expensive of all, but potentially a year-round machine.

I hope this sheds some light on it for you Bill.

My best advise would be, find a good used 3 wheeler FMM like the Ferris Pro-cut or Toro, give it a try for a year, if it is not what you want you can likley sell it for at least what you paid for it, then buy what you like, once you have a real feel for what you need and / or like. If you do like it, you still have the option of keeping it, or selling it (again for what you paid) and buying a new one the same.

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 07-27-2006, 13:58 Post: 132724
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Murf In response to item 4 the FMM 4 wheel I noticed that McCormick has a unit on their pictures rolling on their home page. It looks similar to the Antonio Carraro units, but I can find no details. Any enlightenment Murf the grass guru.






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 07-27-2006, 15:24 Post: 132727
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Bill,

I have the Estate version and my brother has the commerical version. HP per inch of cut is the same for our two machines. I think without a doubt we each would buy our machine again.

With having my B 2710 Kubota and 72 inch RFM I went with the lighter model from Bush Hog. It sits lowers so less limb interference than the commercial model. When we bought it we (my wife and I) thought it would be mostly trimming but we hardly use the tractor any more unless we are cutting all yards at same time. (We cut about four acres most weeks, some about 5 1/2).

The model I bought max ground speed is about 7 mph. The commercial model is 10 to 12. Unless you have smooth, long, straight ways 7 mph is plenty fast. I think Dixie Chopper tells their's will run up to about 20 mph.

One reason we both locked onto the Bush Hog brand is the spindles they use. Same spindles they use on all their finishing mowers except the bat wings. I have many acres on their spindels with no failures but I do keep them greased.






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 07-27-2006, 15:34 Post: 132728
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Eric, you are absolutely correct, on two points, McCormick does have a series of small, reverseable staion machine much like the Carraro's, with a 37 -54hp range, and yes, their site is woefully lacking in information.

This is on purpose, they want you to either fill out the form to have a brochure sent to you, or visit your local dealer and get it in person.

Beyond that I am as in the dark as you are, Laughing out loud. I saw them at the last farm show I was at, but didn't stop because they aren't a priority to me.

I can tell you though, history shows this style of machine is tradionally more expnsive than a comparable CUT, and unless you have a very specific use which would require that type of versatility, it's a very expensive luxury. I have a client who has the Carraro reverseable with a boom-mounted mower on it for cutting the sides of the long laneway into the course through a forest. Even the owner admits it's about a toss up for cost compared to spending a crowd of labourers in there with line trimmers.

In his case the deciding factor was the ability to use it for year-round use.

Best of luck.






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 07-27-2006, 20:11 Post: 132732
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My NH dealer sells Dixies. They want a small fortune for them for what you get, I feel. Small tires and engines are one, though they do offer a small diesel. They just don't look durable when compared to say a Skag zero turn. Sakgs are the commercial guy's mower of choice, and they're about the same price. New Holland makes some nice looking mowers but they're pricey too. I could be wrong but I though my dealer showed me a book of all the different attachments Dixies offer when you remove the deck. That's another thing the decks can be powered vertically to alloww service and not take up floor space. Decks are supposedly easily removed for the other attachments including snow blowers and push blades.






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 07-27-2006, 21:29 Post: 132735
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There used to be a Grasshopper dealer around here too; are they another manufacturer or part of another company?

Thanks for all of the advice. The ground is not rocky or extraordinarily rough; what I'm looking for is something faster than the Allis lawn mower we've been using, but more maneuverable and better cut than the Massey with Bush Hog. I hope to save time not so much with more speed (I'm mowing in high range, 1st and 2nd gear) but with similar speed and more efficiency.

The little Allis has been a great lawn mower, it is just slower than molasses in February.

I'll look at all the options and I have a long time before purchase. Never thought about a FMM, I'll look at those too.

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 07-28-2006, 08:05 Post: 132743
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Bill,

The area I live in grass cutting is more than just a summer deal. There are a lot of commercial companies in the lawn care business. Saying that to tell you there are many dealerships within 25 miles. Toro, Grasshopper, Bush Hog, Ferris, Great Dane, JD, NH, Kubota, Snapper, Cub Cadet, Husky,the list goes on. For me the Estate line of Bush Hog was the right machine. It is as heavy built as some of the commercial models, but at much lower price. That machine does not use the same drive pumps and such as does the commercial models but is suppose to hold up well.

Grasshopper is different company than Dixie Chopper. The best I remember they offer attachements for some of their machines. Dixie Choppers are made in Indiana and Grasshoppers not sure.

Scag mowers have lost a lot of market share here with the zturns. I failed to find the support (dealership) I wanted to buy one.

A flip up deck would be a plus for service work. My Bush Hog does not have that but a simple floor jack solved that issue. Some mowers have sealed spindles and I found some you greased from under the deck, a real issue to me. Some brands run the belts twisted from the motor which makes no sense to me.

Bill, I looked at your info and wonder did you get the tractor out of the bog or did you just finish burying it? Laughing out loud

You said you wanted a better cut than you are getting. I see you have a KK RFM. I have a Bush Hog RFM and the cut with that is the same, great. But you say you are using a "bush hog" which I take to mean a rough cut machine. If you are not getting a lawn quality cut with the KK RFM I suspect something is not right there.

With your NH you probably don't need to invest in a lawnmower of the price level to allow all sorts of attachements.
Hope I have helped. God Bless,






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