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 09-05-2003, 15:08 Post: 63261
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 Can t get it to burn

I have been trying to burn a pile of brush that is maybe 10' by 20" and 6 ' high. With all the rain I can't get it to go. The brush is fairly dry with some green stuff but I've never had this kind of problem. I must have used 5 gallons of kerosenne and a gallon of diesel but nothing!
It's out there smoldering with afew greayed over edges but that's it.

Any ideas, anyone have any napalm? Smile






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 09-05-2003, 15:24 Post: 63262
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If you have any old plywood around I've found that it's very useful to throw it on top of a slash pile after lighting it. It keeps the wind and water away and reflects the heat back into the pile to keep the fire going. I've burned some big piles on some very wet and windy days that way and once it gets cooking you'll have a huge pile of intensely hot red coals going. Of course I was lucky (?) enough to have a bunch of leftover construction debris on-site after building our house.






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 09-05-2003, 15:28 Post: 63264
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I don't know if they are legal to use anymore, but we used to get tough brush piles going with an old vehicle tire. They burn very hot and will get most any pile going.

Also, if the pile is not dense enough, it will have trouble sustaining a flame. Push it together with your FEL and it should help.






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 09-05-2003, 16:04 Post: 63265
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My two sure-fire methods are;

1) douse it (or at least part of it) in gasoline then toss in a lit safety flare, or,

2) use a propane 'tiger' torch, the big 250,000 btu burners on the end of a 3' wand that they use for patching flat roofing.

Best of luck.






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 09-05-2003, 18:05 Post: 63271
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I use a small torch purchased from the Farm& Fleet store.
Dry old boards light the boards first& slowy keep feeding boards and brush. It will burn.






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 09-05-2003, 22:56 Post: 63276
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 Can t get it to burn

Well after realizing it was going to smolder for days or I was either going to have to water it down or get it to burn, I tried again. I got a small flame going, covered it with more brush and then hit it with another 1/2 gallon of kerosene.

Funny, how a little change in the structure of the pile turned the smoldering mess into an inferno Smile

She's history now!

I don't think the tire would have been an option, this pile is in front of my property near the road and my house. That thick black smoke could close the road if the wind shifted and my wife would have killed my if it headed for the house!

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 09-06-2003, 08:20 Post: 63280
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It's good that it's done. Guess it's after the fact now, but some volunteer fire departments will do burns for residents as part of fire crew training. Cripes, we've even flushed out drilled wells and been asked to fill a swimming pool as part of training.

Around here you'd need a permit for such a burn and likely would need a fire warden on the site. At the moment we may still have a fire ban. Good to know of any rules that apply before starting.

Structure can be everything in fires. I just figured out how backfires work. The idea is that big fires draw air from the all around and create winds towards the fire. If you get down wind and close enough, a fire can be lit that the main fire will draw towards itself. In theory, when the two fires collide, there's nothing left to burn and they both go out. Of course, saying and doing are different things and us municipal volunteer fighters aren't in the buz of backfires.






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 09-06-2003, 08:26 Post: 63283
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Here you need a permit. It is free, good for 1 week and basically just has some simple rules/instructions. You just call the fire station and tell them you're burning. I give them my cell phone this way if someone calls in a fire at my location they can contact me and see if I'm OK.

Without burning this year would have cost many hundreds to chip or cart away not to mention the time involved. I am not a fan of putting huge, dry dead brush piles in my woods sot hat wouldn't have been an option.






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Where I am you don't need a permit, you just need to call the burn line to see if burning is approved for that day. Of course that's a mixed blessing. We had a new neighbor who lit off a half dozen burn piles, then when it got too smokey they just left for the weekend and let 'em burn unattended. A brilliant thing to do in a heavily wooded area. With neighbors like that I feel a lot safer knowing that we have Class A shingles, fiber-cement siding, and a deck made of Ipe that won't burn.






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 09-06-2003, 16:53 Post: 63299
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There should be a special waiver in the Penal law that allows you to choke neighbors like that without penalty Smile






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