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 05-31-1999, 00:00 Post: 4526
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I have been looking for a used tractor for some light dirt and gravel work and possibly some occasional brush hog. I have seen some "gas" tractors advertised and I was wondering what the advantages or disadvantages would be. In my ignorance I thought all "real" tractors were diesel. Thanks






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 05-31-1999, 00:00 Post: 4527
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The dealer explained it to me thisway. The diesel has about 3 times more horsepower than the same size gas. Or a 15hp diesel does the same work as a 45 hp gas.






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 05-31-1999, 00:00 Post: 4528
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You have either grossly misunderstood your dealer's comments, or he has no idea what he is talking about, because that statement has absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever.






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 05-31-1999, 00:00 Post: 4531
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I agree....the dealer has no idea what he is saying..But, are you sure that whatyou heard is what he actually said??....Because I do agreethat an 18 HP compact tractor (which are always diesel, by the way) will surelydo at least three times the work of an 18 HP lawn tractor (which is usually agasoline engine). And that is a conservative estimate. Perhaps this comparisonis the one that the dealer meant to make. As to why the all of the compact tractors are diesels, I couldn't tell you. It is certainly possible to design a gasoline engine with similar performance.It might be because of the popular perception that diesels are more powerful coupled with the fact that many of the compacts are designed for the third worldmarket where diesel is the fuel of choice. Diesel does have more energy pervolume than gasoline, but the downside is that the engines have to be made verystout to extract this energy. Personally, I would lean toward a gasoline engine in a compact tractor just because the diesels are too loud for my taste. And if you look at the utility farm tractors of the 50s and 60s there were some excellent models made to burn gasoline. But at this time I am not aware of any compact tractor that isoffered with a gasoline engine. Roger L






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 05-31-1999, 00:00 Post: 4534
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When it comes to compact tractors, just about everything manufactured in recent memory is deisel. Diesels generally produce more torque at lower RPMs (when compared to gas engines). For this reason, they are more suitable for use in tractors. Older gas tractors are easy to work on. Nothing exotic. From what you have described, an old Ford 8N or 9N should do you just fine. If you buy it right you can use it for years and make money when you sell it.






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 05-31-1999, 00:00 Post: 4535
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I find that the diesels have more torque and power, better fuel consumption than the gas powered equipment, plus the diesels well out last the gas engine 2 to 1. I've been selling my gas powered equipment, tractors, and vehicles, and going to diesels here on the farm. Even my F250 pick up is a Powerstroke diesel which well out pull my F350 460 ci gas. The only things left on the farm that are gas powered is my F350, grain truck, and my push lawn mower. As I get a little more money, these well be sold or traded for diesels, acept, maybe the push mower. I personaly feel diesel is the only way to go.
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 05-31-1999, 00:00 Post: 4538
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It's also my understanding that diesel engines would run for longer periods of time with far less wear. How many big rigs do you see parked with the engines running?






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Are 8N and 9N "older gas tractors"? (I realize I am exposing my ignorance here but I see these tractors advertised a lot but I have not really looked into the specs.)






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Just about as old as I am. Most were made in the 40s. The good news is that they run forever, there are a lot of them out there, they take Cat 1 implements, parts are available, they are simple to work on, and they are generally available in the $2,000 to $3,000 range. In there day they were revolutionary. A lot of farmers feed their families with one. Most of the deisel compacts available today will run circles around an 8N or 9N. But they are still capable tractors well suited to mowing and moving a little dirt around. Go to [www.ytmag.com] and click on "Forums." You will see a board divoted to the 8N and 9N. Also, most of the chain bookstores will have something on old Ford tractors (and others as well). Look in the "Transportation" section. Good luck.






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Yes, they are the very definition of "older gas tractor". A very similar tractorare the MF TO-20 and TO-30. THese were all real fine tractors.You can pick up a real nice one for $2500 and a perfect one for under $4000.They didn't adapt to a loader real well because of their weight balance and the steering was a bit hard....but they had an excellent motor, tranny,PTO, and three point hitch. They are still hard to beat for a small 3-pt. chore tractor. Roger L.






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