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 05-26-1999, 00:00 Post: 4326
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Is there a difference between red dyed kerosene and diesel fuel? I can get the red dyed kerosene for less than the diesel so i would prefer to use the cheaper alternative if possible.By the way, this board has been very helpful and I appreciate everyones time and effort helping us "newbies". Thanks!






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 05-26-1999, 00:00 Post: 4334
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Never heard of red dyed kerosene. There is red dyed diesel you can buy (off road) that is cheaper than the clear stuff (on road--taxed). If you can get off road diesel I would recommend it over any of that kerosene stuff. Kerosene is normally mixed with diesel during cold weather and normally is not used straight.






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 05-26-1999, 00:00 Post: 4343
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I think that would be false econonmy. Diesel fuel has additives both for lubricating the valves & injector pump. Cheap fuel can cost alot in repairs. You don't want to skimp on quality fuels & oils on a diesel, because you'll eventually pay for them. I just had an injector pump & 6 injectors rebuilt for a tractor. The bill was $1900.






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 05-26-1999, 00:00 Post: 4348
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The lower priced farm fuel is not inferior to the higher priced diesel, it just lacks the taxes that are applied to road fuel.






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Everbody around here uses the "cheap" farm off-road fuel in their tractors for years. So have I. And nobody I know of has ever had any injector or pump failures from it. More than likely dirt or water caused your pump failure--I guarantee it!






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 05-26-1999, 00:00 Post: 4368
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Fellas,Hate to tell ya, but the died off road diesel, on road diesel (taxed) and home heating fuel all come from the same tank at the local depot. The only difference is the color and price. I have watched them dump the die in!






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 05-26-1999, 00:00 Post: 4369
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Doug,My New Holland and my diesel truck manuals both recomend D1 which is died kerosene, once the temp drops below 0 F. So yes it is normally used straight, and is only a more refined version of D2, which is unwinterized diesel. Less waxes and the like. That is why it works better in winter. There isn't as much BTU content left after refining, so economy will suffer a little. Clean fuel is more important than anything.By the way, diesel, heating fuel and off road diesel all come from the same tank here locally at the depot. Just a color added to heating and off road, nothing else. And of course the taxes to the undied stuff!






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 05-26-1999, 00:00 Post: 4370
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Just read the comment that diesel, both off and on-road, "all come from the same tank". Well, here in South Carolina that's not true. Yesterday I talked with the North Augusta terminal where all the fuel tankers go to get their fuel. The man in charge of the terminal told me that the on-highway diesel always tests at less than 0.05% sulfur (I believe that's a federal regulation) and the last time he tested dyed off-road diesel, it tested at 0.19% sulfur. He also tells me that the fuel comes to the terminal via the pipeline and the off-road fuel comes through the pipeline already dyed red.






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I think you all missed the point. I use farm fuels in my tractors (I've been farming for almost 30 years) & have been told by injector pump rebuilders that they(FS, COOP, etc) are superior to alot of the other diesel fuels available. Alot of the others are just #1 or #2 fuel oil. The question was not farm fuel vs. road fuel, it was kerosene vs diesel fuel. I mentioned the repair cost to stress that pump repair can be expensive. That to save a few cents per gallon may not be sound economics. The rebuilder told me that with 5000 hours on injectors & pump it was due for a rebuild.






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 05-27-1999, 00:00 Post: 4390
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Let me throw my two cents in - I have recently researched this somewhat and here is what I found. There is a slight difference between home heating and diesel. Home heating, and for that matter off road diesel have higher sulphur content. This higher sulpher content does two things, one good the other bad. The higher sulphur content increases the lubricity of the fuel and is the reason why - especially in the early days of low sulphur fuel in '903 and '94 - injectors and fuel pumps started experiencing early failures. Low sulphur fuels now have additives to improve the lubrication and injectors and pumps are made with newer material o-rings, gaskets, etc. The down side of high sulphur fuel (aside from increased sulphur in the air) is that due to crankcase oil contamination by the fuel and any existing water there is an increase in sulphuric acid which will cause pre-mature bearing corrosion. The answer to this is what was always done - change your oil more regularly: half the interval recommended for low sulphur fuel. As far as straight kero, you will pay a price in decreased hp. Better to use a #2 fuel with a winterizing additive such as DEE-ZOL, available from world resources (no, I don't get a cut - I'm just familiar with their product and they are very helpful.






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