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I have a 1995 ford 1920, I am wondering if there are major differences in the three types of fuel available to me. 1) #2 home heating 2) offroad deisel 3) the most convient but more$$, on road deisel. I know price varies but can any tell me about additives that my tractor might need and which fuel has them if any?thanks gbr






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gbr,Home heating oil is usually referred to as #1 (kerosene) which can be burned in emergency in a diesel if you add ATF fluid to it for lubricity purposes (I think it is 1 quart/5 gallons). On road and off road #2 diesel fuel is the same, except off road is dyed red. The on road is clear and is the only fuel you can use in cars and trucks with diesels because it has the road use taxes added (usually 15 to 30 cents a gallon!!!!!!!!!). Off road fuel is just that, for use in off-road vehicles only (tractors, loaders, bulldozers, excavators, etc) If the EPA dips your on-road fuel tank and sees the red dye it is a $ 10,000 fine.Bottom line, use the off-road #2 whenever possible, it's definately the cheaper of the two.






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Home heating oil is also No. 2 fuel oil. No. 1 would be a lighter oil that sometimes is use for very cold weather diesel.






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Most home heating oil sulpher content is about twice as high (0.10% vs 0.05%) as engine diesel. Burning No. 2 fuel oil in an engine is said to be OK, but it will more quickly increase the sulphuric acid build up in the engine crankcase oil. More frequent oil changes are required if you want to lessen the exposure of the internals to the higher acid levels. Off road vs. On road fuel is nothing but a tax issue.A compensating benefit is that the sulpher helps provide for lubrication. Low sulphur fuels have compensating additives placed in it without the downside of the acid. Bottom line, use engine fuels for engines and leave fuel oil for furnaces. To further emphasize, some fuel oil cos. will switch between No. 2 and No. 1, depending market conditions and pricing. They seldom inform the customer as it has no effect on a furnace. If you buy engine diesel, you can pretty well count on that is what you are getting. The cost differential of substituing fuel oil in does not justify the risk in damaging your engine. Lee






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I recommend to my customers to buy diesel fuel from a farm supplier. It has the additive package built for a tractor. I was told by a injector pump rebuilder that the pumps & injectors in the best condition were those that used FS & COOP fuel. # 1 & # 2 can be used, but they do not contain the additives required. #1 has less power, but won't jell in cold temperatures.






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Use the number 1 diesel fuel and add a good additive.Look here for the best product.Call and ask for Rick - he can answer all your questionsand it won't be a hardsell.www.worldresourcesltd.com/deezol.html






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Unless you constantly operate the tractor in temperatures of less than 20 F #1 is not the fuel to use. Home heating oil(which is similar to #2 in weight) does not have to meet the specs, or have the ignition additives of engine fuel so I would reccommend using only in a unit you don't value. That leaves either #2 on or off road. Either will work fine if you buy from a reputable dealer at a place that does a good fuel turnover. The off road will cost less but don't get caught with it in an over the road diesel. If you don't use a lot of fuel and have an over the road deisel just stick with the road diesel and avoid the hassle or confusion. Change fuel filters often and watch for water in the sight glass(if you have one). By the way don't fill up if you see a tanker around. They stir up muck when filling the underground tanks and muck/water will wipe out a diesel big time.






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Many newer Kubotas and Deeres require "Low Sulfur Diesel" only. It says right in the manuals of the 1995 and newer tractors. Why this is I don't know, but I would do what it says on a $20000 machine.






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