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 06-08-2001, 19:47 Post: 29086
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 Ran out of Diesel filled it up and now it won 039t start

It's a Cub Cadet 7205 with a 3cyl diesel. Ran out of diesel right in the middle of bush hogging so I went to fill up a can with gas. Filled up the tank on the tractor (took all 5 gallons, it was bone dry!) and went to crank it. It wanted to start, kind of studdering then died. Now it just cranks and cranks. Is the fuel system air bound or something. Any way to purge or prime it?Thanks for any tips!!!Big Ed






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 06-08-2001, 22:04 Post: 29088
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 Ran out of Diesel filled it up and now it won 039t start

You have to bleed it. I don't know the specifics of your system. It may involve loosening the lines at the injectors. I think that is a typical way.

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 06-09-2001, 05:51 Post: 29099
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Thanks! I figured that was what was required. So I guess I need to unscrew the nut holding the fuel line onto each injector. Do I need to crank it while these nuts are loose or do I just open the nuts and then retighten them?
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 06-09-2001, 09:41 Post: 29106
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Ed, you need to crank the starter while the injector pipes are loose until fuel sprays out (beware of high pressure fuel spraying out, it can pierce your skin). I'm not familiar with your particular machine, but I'll give you some general tips on bleeding. Most systems are gravity fed to a certain point, (fuel filter or lift pump) pull the hose off and see that fuel comes out. From there you'll need to bleed every component in the system (lift pump, FI pump, injectors and ?) by loosening each fitting (half turn or so) as you work towards the injectors and cranking until fuel comes out.
I think running out of fuel is something you only do once, you'll never want to do it again Smile

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 06-09-2001, 15:47 Post: 29110
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 Ran out of Diesel filled it up and now it won 039t start

She's running now!
There was two bleed screws on the rear glass bowl/filter under the tank. There was one more at the pump on the engine. There was no priming lever or anything like that that I could see, but then I noticed that there was an inline electric pump between the glass bowl and the fuel pump. There was no need to remove the injector lines, it cranked right up after I bled all the air out.
This is definitely something that I will not be doing again! Thanks for the help all!!
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 06-10-2001, 07:19 Post: 29122
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 Ran out of Diesel filled it up and now it won 039t start

When you change the fuel filter you will need to open up the bleed screw on the filter bowl also to get rid of air etc.You dont need to crank the engine because its an electronic fuel pump that runs when key is on
I have a 7274 and I had a weird one yesterday
The fuel line was rubbing against the the side shield & it eventually wore a pin hole in the line needless to say I had a real mess had to splice line & bleed at the injector box.So you might want to check your lines up front & make sure there not rubbing I have 330 hrs. on mine






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 06-11-2001, 09:36 Post: 29136
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 Ran out of Diesel filled it up and now it won 039t start

I ran my 4400 out of fuel last fall when the fuel gauge hung up. In my opinion, the nicest feature of the Yanmar engines in the JD compacts is that they are self-bleeding. Fill it with fuel, crank the engine a few times, and 20-30 seconds later you're off and running again. Why don't other manufacturers add this feature? It seems so valuable to me. Is there a downside, other than increased cost? Or does it require direct vs indirect injection?






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 06-11-2001, 12:11 Post: 29150
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 Ran out of Diesel filled it up and now it won 039t start

Thanks for the tip larry.
Not sure why everyone doesn't use the self bleeding method? Once I figured out how to bleed my setup it wasn't too bad. Just had to WALK back to the garage and get a phillips screw driver and a 12mm wrench.






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 06-11-2001, 22:15 Post: 29170
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Jeff, I don't know why other manufacturer's don't do those simple things that work so well. Yanmar also uses "thermostart". It is a cheap and easy cold weather starting system that works. Yet some other makes are still putting glow plugs in their engines. It beats me. Don't they ever look?






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 06-12-2001, 17:09 Post: 29207
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Yeah Roger, I forgot about the "thermostart", which I understand is basically a grid that heats the incoming air. Works even after the engine is started to help smooth out a cold engine. Both this and the self-bleed design are differentiators that provide real competitive value in my book. I don't understand why they aren't copied.






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