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 02-13-2015, 18:46 Post: 192085
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Hello all, new here and in serious need of help. I have a Cub Cadet 6284 with a CAT Diesel engine (3cyl). I went to start it earlier to start plowing and it ran for about 3 minutes and then quit. So I restarted it. Ran for about 5 seconds then quit. I went and got fuel for it, filled it and added additive. Now I have a crank no start with no smoke. Glow plugs are working.






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 02-13-2015, 18:51 Post: 192086
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Edit: it hasn't been started since Monday (9th). I got fuel suspecting pickup wasn't getting fuel. I let it run without moving the tractor. Hasn't moved. Cracked open and fuel line to injector and not getting fuel at the opening.






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 02-13-2015, 20:53 Post: 192087
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 Cub Cadet 6284 Tractor Not Getting fuel

Kix....

I think your on the right track, but your issue maybe much deeper. I copied the following from an article on winter versus summer diesel. I had this happen to me the year I took my tractor from Florida to Georgia. I tried to start my cub with temperatures in the 20's and it was a no go. I emptied the fuel and purchased diesel fuel at the local station and fixed my issue. Good luck

"As the seasons change, it is a good idea to check the fuel grade, as well as the cetane rating on the pump. The higher the cetane number, the easier the diesel vehicle will start in cold weather.
Winter or Winterized fuel and anti-gel additives are an important part of your winterization. Add them to the tank whenever you fill up to ensure the smooth flow of fuel and better vehicle performance during the cold season. Check your owner’s manual for specific additive guidelines and always follow mixing to the letter or risk fuel system damage.
Note: There is a difference between “winter diesel” and “winterized diesel.” Fuel stations in cold areas in the northern U.S. offer two kinds of winter diesel fuel. Number 2 diesel is mixed with number 1 kerosene in the gas station to make winter blend. Number 2 diesel treated with additives by the supplier is known as winterized diesel. Most fuel stations offer winterized diesel instead of winter diesel because it can be less expensive to make. However, some offer both kinds to let consumers decide for themselves."






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 02-13-2015, 23:28 Post: 192089
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Thank you for the response randyrandyt. I took additive and put that in a five gallon jug before filling up to prevent these kind of measures. I had kerosene going through it first. I still had kerosene in the tractor when I first started it. I'm just wondering, where the tractor is parked is on a slope with the tank going towards the downhill side of the slope. There is no fuel pump from what I've read but am not 100% positive. Most manuals I've read say there's a filter housing bolted to the engine with an air bleed screw on it. Mine just has an in-line filter. When watching that filter when cranking, it doesn't fill?






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 02-14-2015, 00:42 Post: 192090
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Kixxis,

I'd check the fuel shutoff solenoid. Sounds similar to a problem I had on one of my previous tractors.

The fuel solenoid has two coils internally. There's a start coil and a separate run coil. The start coil energizes with the key in the start position. The run coil takes over once the valve has been opened.

If your tractor ran for a few seconds and then quit, this is a good sign that the run coil burned out first. Now that it won't start at all, I believe you've also lost the start coil.

This is a fairly common problem. Heat cycles will cause work hardening of the copper wires internally. After many hundreds of heat cycles, the copper wires become brittle and will break apart internally, causing an open in the electrical circuit -- which, in turn, prevents the fuel valve from opening.

Remove the nut from the top of the coil and slide it off of the valve stem. Unplug the coil from the mating plug. Install a new coil and plug it back in. Done. No need to take the fuel solenoid apart.

Hope this helps.

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 02-14-2015, 01:57 Post: 192091
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candoarms, what you said makes sense. Where is this located on my particular application? Is it a simple fix? There's a snow storm coming our way shortly and would like to have the ol girl running again.






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 02-14-2015, 06:53 Post: 192092
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Had similar problem with my 7532
last winter in PA.
Still had original fuel filter in tractor.
(Bought it 2 yrs ago). Changed
filthy filter last summer.

Works fine this winter...






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 02-14-2015, 09:45 Post: 192093
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It sounds like you have a clogged fuel filter. Over time it restricts fuel flow until the tractor sputters and finally quits. It is in the glass sediment bowl beneath the tank. It is inexpensive to replace. Turn off the shut-off just above the bowl. Unscrew the fluted nut and lower the glass. When removing the filter an o-ring stays in the metallic housing above. Wipe out the glass and re-insert.

Just before fully tightening open the shutoff slightly and fill the bowl allowing the trapped air to escape until full with fuel. Fully tighten. You may not have to prime it. Since you already popped a line more than likely you will need to prime it where it goes into the injector inlet. Your tractor will have lots more power!






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 02-14-2015, 09:48 Post: 192094
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Most of this is dumb/stupid stuff, but an hour in the cold might save you a week and $$s getting parts you don't need.

Have you eliminated any possibility of gunk in the fuel feed?
- fuel flows freely from the sump drain on the bottom of the fuel filter cartridge? This flow may not be sufficient to run the engine, so you should check a bit further...
- ice/etc in fuel line from tank to filter - pull line from filter, does fuel flow freely? If not, try blowing the line out back into the tank. Don't do this with the fuel cap fully off unless you like geysers of diesel when it breaks free (I found out...)!
- fuel filter clogged with ice, gelled up fuel, just dirt? May be difficult to tell on your machine as I expect you can't see into the cartridge. As expensive as they are for your machine, a new filter may save the day (it did for me this winter - I now have 3 spares). Note that Cub Cadet/CAT saved a few bucks by not putting in a fuel shutoff valve so remember to clamp the fuel line before pulling the filter.
- try draining the tank and moving the fuel indoors to warm up. You should get a couple hours of use before it gets 'too cold'.

Air in the lines?
There is a bleed screw at top-center of the fuel filter housing (see LINK at bottom of post for operator manual pages)
Manual doesn't indicate that there's a bleed screw on the injector pump, but I bet there is. Diesels don't self-prime well, so finding the bleed screw on the injector pump may be essential. It's probably at/next to where the hose from the fuel filter/pump attaches. (Operator's guide says your machine has a mechanical fuel pump, but I bet they're referring to the injector pump.)

Shutoff Solenoid - This part really shouldn't ever fail. That said, it's probably sticking out the front or the back of the injector pump and has a connector on it. If you can find a service manual for the engine - apparently not available from Cub Cadet, so you'll need to get it from Caterpillar, it will tell you all this. Test the coils with your favorite ohmmeter. The start coil should have lower resistance than the run coil, and if you energize the start coil, you should hear it click.






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Fuel Filter would be the First step.

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