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 03-31-2002, 18:43 Post: 36929
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 Spreading Seed on an existing pasture

Hi folks... I'm about to start to overseed an existing pasture. There are some bare spots and the level of the grass is really short due to heavy grazing last year. I was gonna take my york rake and drag the entire field to kinda thatch and scuff things up some.I'll undoubtadely rip up some existing tufts of green stuff. Then I was gonna broadcast some pasture mix... do i need to go over it again with the rake, or just pray for some rain....Any suggestions?? Thanks!






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 03-31-2002, 22:03 Post: 36933
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I'd suggest raking again after the seed - I usually run my flexible tine harrow over the pasture after seeding.

Where are you located - if it is still getting down below freezing at night, you can broadcast the seed and it will work itself in really well. It won't germinate as quickly, and you might lose a slightly higher %, but you do get a head start, and sometimes its in the ground better before the first big rains.






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 04-01-2002, 10:44 Post: 36948
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before any seeding, make sure you get the soil tested. The correct soil P.H. is very important when establishing grasses and legumes. a soil Ph of at least 5.5 is the minimum. I have always has better luck when tests results were above 6.0. Boron or other trace elements may be needed. But beware of a soil test for copper. the tests currently used for copper are outdated and inaccurate and will almost always show a copper deficiencey. tissue tests are the only way to get handle on copper.

My experience with overseeding or even interseeeding has always been about as good as a roll of the dice. There is a phenomonon called autotoxicicty that the grass that was already established the year before causes.

Consult a local seed dealer or an agriculture extension agent in your area before buying seed.

Like stan mentioned..maybe you can just broadcast it over tye top..depending on location.

The old rule of thumb my grandad passed down was. "sew it on the last snow" (you may have to do this more than once, if you cannot guess when the last snow is Laughing out loud). You also need a horse. he always said "10 seeds to a hoofprint". I have no Idea where he got the horse hooves calibrated. (blacksmith? ferriure??)

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 04-02-2002, 08:59 Post: 36986
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10 seeds to a hoofprint??? Yikes!!! I guess we're not gonna have any more snow, so b4 the rains I'd like to get something growing. If i get rid of all the thatch and dead grass, I'm gonna give it a try. Its starting to green up everyday , so hopefully the new seed will just fill in the bare spots... but at $ 100/80lb bag it better be worth it...Laughing out loud






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 04-02-2002, 09:10 Post: 36988
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greejeans -

OK - what is the standard horse: probably a big draft animal no doubt. Of course, all I've got is Quarter Horse, Lippizan, Tennessee Walker, Paint, Pinto, and Leopard App., so I'll never get the seed right.






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 04-03-2002, 05:28 Post: 36997
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That would be 2.5 seeds per print I guess for at least one of them. I suppose it would be variable if the walker wasn't.

So, the engraving on a Canadian 25-cent coin that commemorated the RCMP Musical Ride was so good that most people could tell what kind of horse was on the coin. Don't suppose I need to say exactly Yuk Yuk Yuk.

Six inches of snow fell last night and it's still coming down. Looking outside and reading about greening grass here is mixing my mind. My only excuse I guess. Hope this nonsense gets a few chuckles though.






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Somehow I associate over-seeding with rollers. I think the idea is to press seeds into the ground and maybe scuff a bit of cover over them, which maybe makes better germination in dry areas. Other people probably know if rolling a pasture as part of over-seeding would be a good to do.

What I wanted to say is that 3ph rollers do exist, and that Roger mentioned making one by putting pipe through the centre of an old gas hot-water heater and filling it with concrete. Roger's idea seems like a good cheapy way to make a roller, but I wouldn't expect most 3ph's to lift something like that.

Sometimes what works just can’t be figured. A couple of years ago I gently suggested that I didn't think my wife wouldn’t get much grass just throwing seed over an area of dozer compacted fill and top-soil. She didn't scratch up the surface or anything--I guess I walked and scuffed a bit.

It was during August and the soil was bare except for some lamb's quarters that came along with the top-soil and sprouted. 'Why not wait till the middle of September' says I. Fortunately mine was a gentle suggestion, because she sure got grass. Still don't know why. I figured that even if birds didn't eat it and some sprouted then the first hot spell would kill any seedlings.






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 04-03-2002, 07:27 Post: 37003
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 Spreading Seed on an existing pasture

For my two cents worth (1.25 cents American) the theory of "Sew it on the last snow.." was a primative, but excellent way to accomplish all the requirements of good germination. The snow would moisten the seed, when it melted down to the earth it would be partially covered in the mud, and the warm spring sun on the dark mud would cause enough warmth for germination to occur while there was (hopefully) still enough moisture in the ground to allow the success of the seedlings.

As for the 'modern' method, the easiest (read least labour and / or time) way we have found is to use a broadcast spreader to spread the seed on the prepped soil. We then fill the 3pth fertilizer spreader (same one we use for seeding) with sawdust and go back over the same area and lay down a good covering of it on top of the seeds. This will help hold moisture, prevent erosion, and discourage all but the most determined birds from feasting. Best of luck.






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 04-03-2002, 14:39 Post: 37022
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Wow Murf.. thts a good idea with the saw dust....I guess it will just dissapate after a while too??? Or should i just spread the seed,THEN run the rake over it? Or will I just end up with a big pile of seeds and dirt??






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SOB
1) I pull the flex harrow with tines in aggressive mode behind the spreader.
2) My neighbour uses the seed drill over the grass in the fall to plant rye grass. I would assume this would work also with any seed.
3) lower spread ratios are difficult to achieve especially with fine seed like Bahai. The trick there is to mix with fine silica sand and then spread.






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