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 05-07-2016, 07:57 Post: 195124
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I was wondering why my shop manual and parts manual show the input shaft with a key way, yet mine is a spline shaft. Am I missing something?







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 05-07-2016, 08:58 Post: 195125
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 05-08-2016, 11:04 Post: 195135
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Gatoraider - I can't quite figure this out. The transaxle on my machine is clearly a TuffTorque KT35, as can be seen on their web site. The KT30 has a keyed shaft and a completely different case than the 35, which I believe you are referring to. On the Deere system, all years of 1200a are showing a keyed shaft. Apparently, our machine has a history of breaking the LH threaded cap screw, so I was thinking that I might need to replace the shifter collar and possibly some bearings and other shaft components. Someone said the shaft is bent, but I am not convinced. Ordering parts has now become trickier. My plan for this machine is as follows.

1. Replace extremely shot primary rollers to see if shuddering is fixed.
2. Replace secondary if no luck with #1
3. Remove transaxle and replace worn Input shaft parts and leaky seals.

Any thoughts on that plan? Thanks for checking it out. I guess I can order the parts dorect from TuffTorque if Deere can't figure out the spline issue.






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 05-08-2016, 12:08 Post: 195136
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This is from a 01 4x2 according to a poster on another forum





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 05-08-2016, 12:22 Post: 195138
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When you say you have a KT35 transaxle do you have inboard brakes? I don't think that transaxle belongs in that machine. That certainly explains why y ...



Looks like we are honing in on it. You think this transaxle might have come off a gator or early AMT?
If so, now what do I do?






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When you say you have a KT35 transaxle do you have inboard brakes? I don't think that transaxle belongs in that machine. That certainly explains why y ...



Heading to the school now to get some better views of mounts.






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 05-08-2016, 13:50 Post: 195142
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If this is the picture of what you have, it is not a K35 it is a K30 and it is a bunker rake K30 because there is a brake disc on the side. No other K ...



Just went to look at it again and you are absolutely correct about it being a K30. And yes, it has the splined shaft. does the shift collar line up with the shift block on either shaft? I wonder if someone just dropped this in?
Either way, it seems like I might be pulling his unit now. Unless the rollers fixes my issue.






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 05-08-2016, 16:44 Post: 195143
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Look interchangeable?





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 05-08-2016, 18:39 Post: 195146
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I think I am starting to catch on. The 1200A after a certain serial number went to the roller style drive clutch that you have. Evidently around that ...



Interesting. So, are we dealing with a third shaft altogether? How on earth would one order parts for that shaft? Haha. did they go from a 10mm RH bolt to an 8mm LH bolt on the shaft in later models? Is there a part to convert keyed sheave to splined? I'm a little scrambled here, but I think I'm catching on. Thank you for helping me solve this.






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 05-08-2016, 20:04 Post: 195148
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Got it; thanks a bunch. Now I know what I am dealing with, so we can go from there. I want to do that axle seal, so will probably tear into this at some point anyway. But first I will see what those rollers do for me. It's little hard to find neutral on this machine, in case that tells you anything about the input shaft or block. by the way, will I reuse hte spacers in the primary for then new rollers?






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If this is the picture of what you have, it is not a K35 it is a K30 and it is a bunker rake K30 because there is a brake disc on the side. No other K ...



Just went to look at it again and you are absolutely correct about it being a K30. And yes, it has the splined shaft. does the shift collar line up with the shift block on either shaft? I wonder if someone just dropped this in?
Either way, it seems like I might be pulling his unit now. Unless the rollers fixes my issue.






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