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Wow...I can see a tragedy in the works. It would be MUCH better / safer to grab a large pipe wrench and turn the auger in reverse to free it.
You have to keep something in mind....the tractor HAS enough uumphh to raise the auger. Add the weight of the soil/rock/clay or whatever is within the flute lines of the auger, then add in the rock or root (or pipe) that it caught hold of, that baby is flipping over backwards ... and FAST!
Worst case scenario, pull the shear pin from the auger drive, turn the tractor around, and gently work and lift the auger out with the loader...GENTLY, while turning out with a pipe wrench
I am with Murf...stay safe.

Best ~
Willie H.

Kubota B2620 3pt hitch won t lift
Kubota Tractors
Replies 8 Post by WillieH

Rodsbod ~

Glad to hear that there is/was resolution to your situation. from the way you write, it seems as though the dealer was hoping that the issue would either correct itself, or go unnoticed until warranty ran out, thereby leaving them free and clear of cost of repair. If it were me, and I encountered these problems, I think I would be seeking a different dealer from point of repair forward if I could not do the work myself.
Sorry for the aggravation that you have gone thru, but happy that you have found resolve! :-)

Best ~
Willie H

Kubota B1750 3PH does not lift well
Kubota Tractors
Replies 28 Post by WillieH

Dan ~

It is tough to say, just what the Amish folk did or did not disturb while "fixing" your orange, as we were not there. Needless to say, at this point in time, there are many on this site that certainly would have done a proper job, above and beyond what you have experienced.
I am going to throw something out there at you. You mentioned that you have a loader. Everything worked fine PRIOR to the "repair" work. Then it studders in the hydraulic action once you received it back, slow at best but with air bubbles (perhaps moisture/condensation).

On the right side of the tractor's engine (follow the hydraulic line from the pump to a cast "Y". This will be a directional shut-off valve. In one direction, it will allow flow to the loader valve, then return fluid to the sump through the other side of this valve.
a) check to see that the little arm atop this directional valve is actually moved in the proper direction . It will need to "point" in the direction of the hose going to the loader. (there will be port A and port B - one feeding out, one return, and is easy to trace thru)

If this directional arm is NOT open all the way, it will be restricting flow, and cause laziness in the hydraulic operations - ALL THE WAY AROUND the tractor.

You mentioned also, that you had/have some small black rubber like chunks on the screen. in the directional valve, sits a small o-ring. As this 'typically" does not get used very much, over time, it will dry rot, and break down...leaving you not necessarily with a leak out, but with a potential suction inwards of contaminants. Additionally, if you are secure with the hose to cylinder connections as being tight, check the loader valve itself for wear as moisture and grime can work on the spools, then slowly working inwards eating away the seals allowing moisture/air inwards. Another spot to check is the boot to the shifter stick. As this is a gear shift, as the boot wears with age, it will dry rot. I HAVE seen on mine B5200's,B6200's,B8200 that are garaged near all the time, that the boots will dry rot and allow grime to work on the seal of the shifter and top end of the tranny casting. This in time will allow a suction inwards as well. Unfortunately, given the location for BOTH the loader valve and shifter seal, they are ideal spots to where moisture (rain/snow the like), can sit and seep in causing weird stuff - such as the little bubbles you are seeing. By the way, that effect if called cavitation, as the pump spins without (in this case hydraulic oil) freely, and churns the little bubbles into millions of baby bubbles and so forth as it circulates through out the system.

If you were to pull the tranny screen, and you were to find a heavy cream or thickness coating it. You would be ultimately starving the pump, and the pump BEING strong, would suck from whatever miniscule opening it could find. This may be a by product of an old trick that was used, and still today used on old worn out pumps to get them primed after tear downs. The "service person" would load a small amount of heavy weight grease into the suction side of the pump, or suction tube. this thickness would then create a vacuum in the system to draw the fluids in an otherwise worn pump system. If, and I use the word loosely, if the Amish reasoned that "the tractor was old", and assumed the pump needed to be primed, this would/could explain the heavy cream if found on the strainer screen.
Just shooting some what-ifs at you.

As stated earlier, the older units are not as sensitive as the newer when it comes to many elements, including the hydraulic oil. If you can change a tire, you can change the hydraulic oil in this unit...it is that simple, just a little messy...the same as pulling the strainer from behind the tire/wheel assembly that you pull off for access.

Willie H

Kubota B8200 after Hose and Fluid change no Hydraulics
Kubota Tractors
Replies 46 Post by WillieH

KT ~

Perhaps there was a modification in production practice, bad materials, whatever at that time...certainly seems interesting that there were many of whom experienced similar problems AND results.

I have four units to date. Two are 028 AV Supers, MS290, 024. The 028's have an 18" and 20" bar on them, with chisel tooth cut, and bought them new in 1984 ! They may be heavier, but by golly they run great still ! I don't believe I will get the service from the MS290 as the 028's but we'll see.

I'll send you some chocolates! lol

Willie H.

Burnt up stihl 290 chain saw 4 months old
Shop Tools
Replies 35 Post by WillieH

I am not sure how handy you are with fabrications, but if you are not, check the area for a fab shop and explain the situation. I believe with a bit of checking around, you will find some shop that can do exactly what you are seeking. The term, "you cannot do that..." typically today, means that there is no part number associated with it, and no one wants to be bothered figuring it out. A good fab shop will and can.

Best ~
Willie H

Kubota B2150 and a BT750AR Backhoe attachment
Kubota Tractors
Replies 3 Post by WillieH

I am a little tardy in getting back to reply...I am still learning the navigation elements here again. So, my apologies to all that have replied with well wishes - I do Thank you all.

Murf ~
I have been watching the Transits also. I met up with a couple different folks (at different companies) that utilize these vehicles. I like them myself, and a family, (husband/wife) down the road from me, have his and hers transit vans and love them. If memory serves, they are produced in Turkey, and as you stated, are proven over there...maybe my next - who knows. :-)

Been awhile folks
Everything and Anything
Replies 8 Post by WillieH

gregred75 ~
I forgot to mention ... unless modifications have been made over the years to your orange, the B7200 was a pretty straight forward unit with little complicated circuitry. That said, the fuses are located in line from the battery "compartment". They are pretty evident bullet fuses when searching in the right area, again, close to the battery area. I think, as far as the switch is concerned, they are pretty robust, but again, as stated before, time and use have ways of deteriorating elements.

Any chance that the connectors were pulled apart under the fenders? Just a thought about the cables.

Willie H.

Kubota B7200 Tractor Flasher lights do not work
Kubota Tractors
Replies 4 Post by WillieH

Darren ~

This may be a bit late in getting to you, however, I just got in and back on from a medical hiatus.

Don't be shy on the B1700 model. It is not a current model from Kubota, however, will certainly be capable of handling the tasks that you presented.

I have several B models, as one will see in some of my pics. I would encourage reviewing some older posts and discussions regarding the concerns that you have. Once you do, you'll realize that it will do the job just fine - albeit slower, but just fine.

I have two B5200's that are 1987 vintage,(13.5 hp 3cyl eng / 11 hp pto), one that I routinely use a Woods 6500 hoe on, and another with a five foot - that would be 5 foot tiller, without issue since 1987. Additionally, I have a few B7500's as well that I switch implements on/off with including tiller and bush hog. I have a Befco brand Tiller right from North Carolina, and could not be happier with it.
Remember though, the depth, the type of material to be tilled are key. If you are trying to till muck, then the little orange will be strained not only in the operation, however when you try to pick it up out of the plot, that muck will be ridiculously heavy AND be added weight to your 3pt lifting system. Otherwise, you really should not have any issues. Hope this helps

Willie H.

Good Deal on Kubota B1700
Kubota Tractors
Replies 12 Post by WillieH

propilot ~

One element that I did not see mentioned in your text, was whether or not you were attempting this pull in high range or low range. Needless to say, if you were in low range and four wheel drive, you would have had the maximum pulling power that the baby orange could deliver. If it was in high range, it might have initially tried to spin, then would sit there motionless if the task was too extreme, as EW eluded to.

- Willie H

BX1500 pulling power
Kubota Tractors
Replies 7 Post by WillieH

Dennis ~

I think things are straightening out now - Thanks!
One thing wierd happened this morning though. As I was retrieving an email in my email from TP, I picked the earlier email so that I could follow the "story line". As I finished that email, I proceeded to the next only to find that every additional email sent from TP were then dumped.

If it wasn't for the fact that I physically saw them initially, I would've nevr known that they were there, However, I had ten emails waiting to be read, and after I read the first (or the earliest) they were all gone.
I checked my old mail file - nothing there either.
Any thoughts?

-Willie H

Write - No Read
Website Operations Howto
Replies 4 Post by WillieH

madcat ~<br>
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I was waiting to hear what you found before commenting. I too have a few older B_200 series oranges. One of the strangest noises that I had ever encountered was that of the front propeller shaft bearing disintegrating as I drove. <br>
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Basically if you were to look at the profile of the tractor, one would see a shaft tube coming downwards from the mid section of the tractor that would connect thru a boot to the aft side of the front differential. At this point, there is a removable housing that houses a u-joint. This is where the noise would be originating, and traveling up the tube and resonating into the center of the tractor. <br>
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Over time, moisture would develop in the tube, and ultimately travel downward straight into the bearing assembly. In time, the bearing would dry out,rust, and breakdown. If this ever happens, plan on replacing the full bearing set in this housing, and the two boots for the driveshaft tube. Small money seeings how you would have the entire shaft dropped anyway. That drove me bananas for a bit until I figured out where it was coming from! I had that happen twice, one time on both of my 5200's since I bought them in 1987. It happened now about 9 years ago, so I really cannot complain.<br>
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- Willie H

B7200 HST weird noise
Kubota Tractors
Replies 9 Post by WillieH

sesails ~

I am glad you like the pics. One of these days, i'll get around to dropping a few more on here.

As far as the roller (lawn roller lol) is concerned, I used a 55 gal plastic drum, a couple of 1 1/4" pipe flanges, and some high quality construction adhesive in a caulk tube, that is a moisture curing adhesive. Along with this, I used some self drill and tap 1" hex screws (8 per flange) and screwed it all on center to both sodes of the barrel.

The rest is merely framing. There should not be any problem piggy backing a second barrel for width, so long as the respective joining pipe and flanges are large enough to accommodate the center twist force - a 2" should work fine as long as it is kept as close together as possible.

The Befco Tiller that I have has the offset ability as well. Funny thing is, I have never needed to make use of it. Usually where I get into, I still have sufficient room to maneuver without having to utilize it. But it is there just in case. It to is labeled as a 1558, as is the LandPride, and without question the LandPride is certainly quality as well.

- Willie H

Tiller Purchase - Befco Woods KK Bush Hog
Operating and Attachments
Replies 11 Post by WillieH

Depending on the vintage deck, you will have a curved link from one side of the deck (aft side) to the other, This will essentially stabilize the lift from side to side. Your drive shaft will be in the same neck of the woods. Be sure that you have not placed the driveshaft on the wrong side of the hoop. If you have, then you will need to disconnect the shaft, and relocate to the otherside of the hoop, as the drive shaft may be hindering the lift (or lowering) of the deck, causing you your uneven lift or lowering.

No big deal to check - just look under the tractor to make sure that the shaft is on the correct side of the hoop link. There should be stops on the top of the deck, where this hoop will ride. It is really easy to put the shaft on the wrong side - been there done that.

- Willie H

RCB60-24B Mower Help
Kubota Tractors
Replies 5 Post by WillieH

Frank ~
Yes it is working again.....As Robin once said "Holy external charging systems Batman, the link to TP is working again!" :)
Thanks!

~ Willie H

Titan Generators
Shop Tools
Replies 11 Post by WillieH

Mys -

If you are still looking for a laoder for your B6200D, Koyker (USA made) is a VERY strong unit. Little heard of, but they put out a great little loader. This includes the full subframe, from nose anchor, mid anchor points, as well as rear tranny housing anchor. I put several on the B5200'sas well as B1550,B1750. These all (B6200D included) will fit up to a Koyker 110 model loader assembly - and, it is quick detach besides.
Today, I believe that they have a different model number, with improvements made, but still available. I can email some pics if so desired.

- Willie H

Kubota B6200 D
Kubota Tractors
Replies 8 Post by WillieH

bb ~
As far as the price range is concerned, I believe that there are three different models to choose from, from TORO. If memory serves me (been kind of cloudy lately), the range was between $1800 - $3700, something like that. They would be running approximately 2300 - 2800 revs for optimum output flow, with the rear pto set at 540.

With mine, running at about 1000 revs, this thing blows WET cakey leaves, 1" maple sticks, etc, in the neighborhood of 15 to 20 feet away. It's great....everything ends up over in my neighbors yard, and I'm not even close to the boundary! LOL
Seriously, she pushes ALOT of air. I have run this on my older B5200 kubotas, of which are 3 cyl,13.5 eng.hp, 11 hp pto, as well as on my B7500's which are 3 cyl. 21 hp eng,HSD/DT 16 hp/17hp respectively, with NO problem - PLENTY of power to spare.

One of the biggest things that I have noticed with mine, is that it will blow "better" in one direction than the other, but still performs fantastic.
I purchased mine for $200.00 at auction. It basically needed a couple of roller wheels and fresh coat of paint. I have seen two different ones advertised on eBay about two months back. If I can find the info, I'll pass it along to you.
It is actually so powerful, that I have even seen it throw 2" trap rock off the ground in some areas, granted not like a baseball flying at you, but still moves it out of the way....- THAT impresses me. And if it ends up o'er yonder in the neighbors, well one less rock that I will hit with the mower! LOL

~ Willie

3 pt leaf debris blower
Operating and Attachments
Replies 6 Post by WillieH

kw -
No kidding...a NH dealer carries Branson. That is certainly interesting. Out here, either they are on their own, or they are coupled with another non-big-three-name brand or two, such as Mahindra, Kioti, etc.
Thanks for the input
~ Willie H

Branson Tractors
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 11 Post by WillieH

A family is at the dinner table. The son asks his father, "Dad, how many kinds of boobs are there? The father, surprised, answers, "Well, son, there are three kinds of breasts. <br>
In her 20s, a woman's breasts are like melons, round and firm. In her 30s to 40s, they are like pears, still nice but hanging a bit. After 50, they are like onions". <br>
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"Onions?"<br>
"Yes, you see them and they make you cry." <br>
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This infuriated his wife and daughter so the daughter said, " Mom , how many kinds of 'willies' are there?"<br>
The mother, surprised, smiles and answers, "Well dear, a man goes through three phases. In his 20s, his Willy is like an oak tree, mighty and hard.<br>
In his 30s and 40s, it is like a birch, flexible but reliable. After his 50s, it is like a Christmas tree".<br>
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"A Christmas tree?"<br>
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"Yes - dead from the root up and the balls are just for decoration."<br>

Onions and Christmas Trees
Just For Fun Off Topic
Replies 1 Post by WillieH

raiseanative ~
JimP and I both have the 650 Woods, and not unlike JimP, every now and then, the little bugger sticks a bit. Wd40, PBBlaster, any of these penetrants will work to spray on and seep in for a bit.
My recommendation, however, is not to use a metal surface to contact the press/release button on the pump coupler. Rather use a piece of wood, approx. 1 in x1 in., and tap that with the hammer against the press button.
Two reasons: number one, everyones -tap- is different in strength, and one could very well pein over or mushroom the press button, to the point where it won't depress.
Secondly, remember your thumb USUALLY will be able to depress this button. If you smack it with a hammer, a burr may develop, that you don't know of or cannot see. The next thing is a tetanus shot at the local clinic as your hand is bleeding out! Use a small block of non marring material.

~ Willie H

Help removing a Woods 750 back hoe
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 8 Post by WillieH

bobbyb4 -

I have a 3pt leaf/debris blower. It was originally made by OLATHE. This company was then bought by Jacobsen, bought by TORO Turf Products. It is presently still with TORO, and very well built still. Very popular for truf farms and golf courses.
Check out TORO.com - they have three (?) different 3pt models available

~ Willie H.

3 pt leaf debris blower
Kubota Tractors
Replies 3 Post by WillieH