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Maybe I shouldn't be posting here anymore since I finally bought a used Kubota 3010, HOWEVER . . .

If the dealer is going to throw in filling the tires, make sure it is done right. Three Kubota dealers told me three different ways of filling the tires - with calciun chloride, with anti-freeze and with windshield washer fluid. If i were going to do it myself, speaking as a chemist (which I am) I'd go with cheap windshield washer fluid. Calcium chloride is a mess to work with and corrodes any metal that it comes in contact with, and anti-freeze is expensive and will poison the soil if you pick up a nail and get a leak (besides being fatally toxic to dogs, who love the taste of it).

If you can get a foldable ROPS as a deal sweetener, do it. You will need it if you buy a 'hoe, and it improves the resale value of the tractor.

Why not buy from Corriher or Tarheel
New Holland Tractors
Replies 32 Post by Paladin

Now you guys have me worried as h**l. I needed to start my L3010 just once at below zero temperatures, and it was only 2 deg. below. I let the glow plugs do their thing until the light want out, turned the key and it cranked for 3 seconds or less and started right up. The battery is brand new (albeit a factory second because I live close to a battery factory) and the oil is whatever the previous owner put in the tractor.
I'm so damn worried now that I am going to check out block heaters for next winter. I wonder if the different engine and compression ratio on the L3010 made a difference vs. a BX1500.
The loader worked as slow as h**l in the subzero temperatures, but that is another story.

Starting BX in Real Cold Weather
Kubota Tractors
Replies 47 Post by Paladin

My L3010 3 point hitch has a fancy levelling crank with a bent wire keeper to hold the handle down. Some of the time it works perfectly and sometimes it seems to skip a gear or two. The local Kubota dealer was kind enough to print out the exploded parts view for me and I took the thing apart as much as possible (it is a real pain - you have to drift out a bunch of pins). There appears to be nothing wrong with it except the gears do not mesh enough. This problem is supposedly correctable by putting another shim or two in under the gears. The problem is that I can't figure out how to get the gears out without cutting the weld off on the lower end of the thing.<br>
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Are these things really supposed to be repairable? The contractor who dug my new basement showed me the three point hitch rig that came with his Kubota (w/factory hoe) and it uses a simple and foolproof turnbuckle. I could just buy one of those, or I can also buy a generic made-in-China levelling crank that is s dead ringer for the Kubota crank for about $95.<br>
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Any ideas?

3 Point Hitch Levelling Crank
Kubota Tractors
Replies 2 Post by Paladin

Well, it's a sunny day here in eastern PA and the temp is up in the 20's. Also, the way the tractor is parked the sun is shining on the left rear tire and it is warm to the touch. So I pushed the valve stem down a bit with a nail and plain water shot out. Looks like they were filled with just plain water. Also it appears that the front tires were not filled. When spring breaks I plan to Jack the tractor and drain the rears one at a time. Unless I can figure out a way to rig up a piece of 1/8 copper tubing or something and siphon the last water out, I only see two alternatives: first, refill them with something that doesn't freeze or second, take the tractor to a shop and have the tires dismounted.

Actually, now that I think about it if I horse around with some copper tubing and duct tape and the shop vac, maybe I can rig up a way to suck the water out.

Filling Tires Frozen Tires
Kubota Tractors
Replies 18 Post by Paladin

I got more damn good ideas from this thread. I plowed snow for the first time with my L3010 with FEL and Bushhog rear blade. I wish I had read the thread before. I found the blade more productive than the loader bucket and I wound up reversing the blade and plowing in reverse to clean off a parking lot. I think that I will try the rubber edge concept for next year. I have part of my driveway in Belgian Blocks to look nice and authentic (it's a 1790 home) and I don't want to gouge them up.

Of course, I won't be plowing any more until I can unfreeze the tires, which was the subject of another thread.

My bucket uses the standard skid steer mount (Great Bend FEL). How would I go about putting a truck - type snow blade on the front of the 3010 to replace the bucket? Used plows are often available for cheap around here once winter is over.

snow removal tips wanted - bx23
Kubota Tractors
Replies 36 Post by Paladin

You need to keep an sharp eye on your state Game Commission once the antler restriction idea lights up in their minds. Pennsylvania has had a reputation for awful racks for years because everything with a spike over 3 in was a legal buck. You would see 20 doe from your tree stand and not a buck all day - they had all been cleaned out on opening day. Damn few bucks over a year old were in the woods. So the Game Commission decided to give out virtually unlimited doe tags (Five $ for a tag) and restrict bucks to 3 points on a side or better. Three years of this and now we have some monster racks in the woods but damn few deer. I saw one deer from my tree stand all of opening day - usually it would be 5 to 10. My group (we are leaseholders on private land) took three monster racks and maybe 15 doe for 50 hunters. Years ago the kill would heve been 30-40 deer.

power service diesel treatment
Kubota Tractors
Replies 14 Post by Paladin

An L3710 sounds awfully big for 5 acres. I bought a used L3010 for 15 acres and I consider it to be sized just fine for my needs. I run a 60 in Bush Hog and a 72 in finish mower and both run beautifully. Even so, I have kept a small JD riding lawnmower with cart both to mow in tight places and get in amongst the trees to cut up deadfalls.

If you can pick up a used tractor via the web you can do what I did and go to www.ytmag.com and check out the classifieds for transportation. Truckers who haul tractors advertise there. I had two competitive offers to haul my tractor and implements at $1 per loaded mile. I went with Jason the Tractor Man from Harrisburg, PA and the tractor was delivered in perfect shape.

How big
Kubota Tractors
Replies 4 Post by Paladin

I believe that the hoes on one or more of the Korean built tractors now coming into the USA are built by Ameriquip also. If I am not mistaken, the hoe on the Zetor/Century tractor is one of theirs.

Nothing wrong with OEM. In fact, I think it is either Porsche or BMW that has announced that they are going to have a new lower priced bottom of the line car that they are introducing OEM'd at a factory in Austria.

Buying a Nearly New Tractor
Kubota Tractors
Replies 4 Post by Paladin

The Farmtrac tractors by LongAgri are actually LG's (they even have the LG crest on the hood). The Farmtrac 300 series used to (as of six months ago) have Mitsubishi engines. I looked at a used low hours Farmtrac 360 and it was a nice machine. LongAgri dealers are as scarce as hen's teeth around here so they couldn't be moving many tractors. It wouldn't surprise me if LG had desired to enter the US market on their own.

Branson vs Century
Other Tractor Brands
Replies 39 Post by Paladin

Thanks for the suggestion. It looks like it might work well for me. We have a local mom-and-pop equipment manufacturer, Ringo Hill Equipment, who makes blades to order. I can probably get them to throw in welding on the lugs for free and they are $150 to $225 less than BEFCO and Bushhog on a six or seven foot blade. I can buy the cylinder myself from Northern Tool and the diverter valve and hoses. It looks like a great solution.

Rear Hydraulics on L3010
Kubota Tractors
Replies 5 Post by Paladin

My 3010 came used with the standard Kubota one hole frame mount drawbar. I have already discovered the first pain in the butt problem, which is that the drawbar hole is slightly too small to take the 1 in shank on a standard 2 & 5/16 hitch ball. The drawbar hole must be metric(?) so I will have to have it drilled out.<br>
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Another option that I have figured out is to get an aftermarket 9 hole drawbar that fits on the 3 point hitch bars. These drawbars even come with anti-rotate attachments so I could put the 2 & 5/16 ball at one end and a 1 & 7/8 at the other and tow what I need to tow. However, the Kubota manual is dead set against towing a trailer with the three point hitch. Anybody know why?

Drawbar On Kubota L3010
Kubota Tractors
Replies 4 Post by Paladin

I think that I have finally found a tractor at a price that I could afford without going non-major brand. I first priced out an MF 1433 synchro shuttle with R4's and 1466 FEL and it came in at $20,000 plus 6% tax for $21,200 - kind of disappointing. I then drove about 10 miles to the Agco dealer who quoted the same tractor (Agco ST35 & Agco SL46 loader)at $18,400 with zero tax. Now, Pennsylvania exempts farmers from sales tax and I never concealed the fact that I was just a hobby farmer with 15 acres. The Agco dealer (I am not going to mention his name and get him in trouble) said "you look like a farmer to me". He also offered to upgrade me to the turbocharged 40 HP ST 40 for another $200.<br>
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How does this deal sound?

Price check - MF1433 Agco ST35
Massey Ferguson Tractors
Replies 2 Post by Paladin

I don't want to create confusion here. Walter's handles the CENTURY. The model I priced at Walters was the exact Century equivalent of the Branson 3510. Century has a better loader, no doubt about that. Other than that, identical tractors.

Century prices go up but not Branson prices
Other Tractor Brands
Replies 3 Post by Paladin

Prices - hot off the press. Also, B2910 to be discontinued in favor of B2930 Grande.

Prices just quoted to me yesterday by Canns-Bilco Kubota in SE PA. Both prices include folding ROPS, R4's and 60" Kubota LA402 loader but no state taxes.

B7800 HSD - $15383.

B2910HSD - $17452.

Canns-Bilco told me that there is a big Kubota national sales meeting this fall. They expect that the B7800 will stay but the B2710 (of which they sell zero) and the B2910 WILL BE DISCONTINUED. The replacement will be an even more loaded up version of the B2910 to be called the "B2930 Grande". They claimed that B2910's are becoming hard to obtain via dealer swaps and they wonder if Kubota in Japan is already making the B2930.

Price Check and Model Comp 7800 vrs 2910
Kubota Tractors
Replies 15 Post by Paladin

Sorry, I know that 'bota pricing has been rehashed many times here on the board but here we go again.<br>
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Here's the deal (it's an internet sale) 2001 L3010, 350 hours, HST, GB 280 FEL (GB's highest capacity loader in the 200 series) for $14000. Fixed ROPS which I will have to change out due to a low roof.<br>
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The new ROPS would be $600 plus installation at the 'bota dealer.<br>
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Delivery cost to be negotiated - it's 800 miles.<br>
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I tried two 'bota dealers. One was cooperative and will order the new ROPS, and the other just trash-talked their own brand used tractors and claimed that they could not order a ROPS for a tractor that old (give me a break!!!!). They claimed that L3010's with FEL regularly cracked the front axle housing up under the motor. The guy darn nearly grabbed for my wallet he was so determined to sell me a new one. For a dealer it was a shabby performance.<br>
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Kubota Price L3010 Price Check one mo time
Kubota Tractors
Replies 18 Post by Paladin

I spoke to the owner of the 360 DTC - he started a landscape business but has now decided, for whatever reason, to give up on the business and to go back to shift work. The tractor is stored inside. The finish mower is a Rhino. The dealer sold him a Great Bend loader because this dealer does not like the Long loaders.

I drove to a Long dealership today. They were closed, but a 360 DTC was parked outside. I, too, am not impressed by the Long loader. The absolute finest loader that I have found on a CUT is the Czech made loader on the Zetor/Centurys. In general it is much more heavily built than Long's loader and every pivot point has an easily replacable sleeve bearing.

I have an appointment later this week to go to the garage and see the Long 360 DTC.

Price Check - Long 360DTC W loader
Long
Replies 11 Post by Paladin

Actually, I was kind of fond of the Quantum. You can't beat 36-38 MPG. My kids still have fun recollections of fueling at the truck stops in between the 18 wheelers and it only waxed up on me once. I am close to buying a diesel tractor right now. The Quantum had a lot of good miles left in it with maybe one tiny rust spot on the body, the nice VW alloy sport wheels and new rubber. The independent guy that I use for my German cars said flatly that he would slap a new head on it but nothing more. The VW dealer quoted me thousands for a rebuilt engine and then ushered me into the showroom and said "trading it really is the smart thing to do".

You are right - it's a different story in Europe. You see diesel Audis and Benz's all the time. We just need to get use to working on them over here. You can't beat the MPG.

Jeep Liberty Diesel
Autos SUV Trucks
Replies 38 Post by Paladin

I am also planning to "take the plunge" soon and have looked over numerous machines. IMHO, the NH machines have the best ergonomics of the bunch. I hated to end the test drive and get off the tractor. The loader controls were just perfectly positioned for my arm. The sloped hood makes it easy to see what's happening with the loader. This may strike some of you as odd, but the Korean-built Century came in second for me in the ergonomics department and the 'bota 2910 dead last. Aren't the 'botas about due for a redesign soon anyway?

NH TC30 vs Kubota B7800 vs JD 790
New Holland Tractors
Replies 48 Post by Paladin

I just got back from our local Cub dealer, Krock's Equipment in Nazareth, PA. He has three of the brand new 2004 Cubs in stock - two 8404's and an 8454. He is expecting an 8354 any day.<br>
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I gave the machines a good once over and they are marked "Made In Korea" on the builder's plate. I asked the dealer who is making them and he said that he didn't know, except that the engines were Daedong (Kioti, in other words). I took a second look and the tractors DO have a passing resemblance to Kiotis. The dealer even told me that some Cubs would be coming from China, too.<br>
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The prices he quited were really attractive - the 40 Hp at 18900 with loader and the 35 Hp at 17300 w/loader. Nice loaders, BTW - full frame type.<br>
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Anybody know who makes these tractors in Korea and parts interchangeability with Kioti?

Cubs from Korea What s going on
Cub Cadet
Replies 5 Post by Paladin

Some of you guys may remember that, about a year ago, I posted that I was looking at a couple of used Cubs 7275's. I passed them up - the one with loader had bad oil leaks and the other had high hours.<br>
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Messing around on the web I just found a NEW 7360SS with loader at a dealer in CA that apparently is giving up their Cub franchise. The price is 17410 with the loader and includes shipping cross country to PA. This is cheaper than prices that I got on comparable Kiotis and Centurys and a bundle less than JD and 'bota.<br>
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Should I watch out for anything here? Is this too good to be true?

Cub Cadet 7360SS with Loader - Price Check
Cub Cadet
Replies 4 Post by Paladin