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I've been looking for a set myself - The best I've seen is $475 on fleabay, and then you have to ship them. My Kubota dealer does a set for $750 (plus tax of course). I've not been willing to pony up that much. I keep hoping I stumble across a landscaper or someone who is trading out equipment...

Skid steer pallet forks
Kubota Tractors
Replies 6 Post by HuckMeat

I could deny it - At least in my neck of the woods. My dealer quoted a $2500 difference between the 3430 and the 4330 without the cab. 4k comes to mind as the extra cost of the cab, but I can't really remember.

3430 vs 4330 price
Kubota Tractors
Replies 13 Post by HuckMeat

How do most of you fill your tractors? Right now I'm building my house and only have a small shed, so I bring up a 5 gallon diesel can as I run errands. It works ok for filling my kubota, but there must be better/easier ways. What options do you guys recommend for stationary tanks, and what drawbacks/advantages are there?<br>
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Also, I suppose the diesel I use in my tractor could be tax exempt if I was using it in the tractor for agricultural work on my 50 acres. Is that the case? How different is this diesel from the diesel that comes out of the filling stations? Do I have a farm/fuel delivery stop by and top off my storage tank, and buy it without the excise taxes? Would that diesel work in pickup trucks/etc (farm related of course :)<br>
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Diesel Filling Supply
Parts and Repair
Replies 18 Post by HuckMeat

I'm a relative newbie, but did some research and got a lot of help from the guys on this board. The 3 point hitch backhoes fit as described, but the forces of the backhoe operation are transmitted to the components of the tractor. Advantage: cheaper, mostly universal fit. Disadvantage: can be very hard on tractor chassis & hitch, break parts, etc. May be more time consuming to attach (depends on model). May be limited in size/capability by connection (not sure).

I'm not sure about a 4 point mount, but I bought my kubota with the subframe mount.

From my understanding, and experience, the subframe mount connects the backhoe directly to the tractor frame, spreading the forces out over the whole tractor. This makes the tractor happier, and less likely to damage other tractor parts. Advantages: stronger, spreads out forces. Possibly bigger backhoe capabilities. Disadvantages: cost, some subframes drastically reduce clearance, may require removal of hitch linkages to install backhoe.

I have the BH90, and am very impressed with it. The mount is super beefy, and the backhoe mounts quickly with 2 pins, plus 2 tabs from a bar on the backhoe that engage with the subframe. Only drawback is I need to remove the 3 point linkages, but I might be able to get around that with a little work.

I've seen it recommended that a subframe always be used to prevent/minimize potential damage to the tractor - I've only used the subframe, so I'm not qualified there.

3 point hitch backhoe question
Kubota Tractors
Replies 6 Post by HuckMeat

Sounds pretty good. I paid 23k for the same thing with R4 tires and quicktach, 72" bucket. But everything here costs a lot. always.

L4330 4WD with LA853 FEL and AG tires
Kubota Tractors
Replies 3 Post by HuckMeat

I'm mid construction on my insulated concrete form house. ALL things steel, and other metals that are alloyed with steel, are climbing. Doesn't matter if it's made here or over there. China, and to some degree, India, are building a lot, and as mentioned before, this is causing a short term rise in steel prices.

I just had to buy 18000 feet of #5 and #4 rebar. It's almost doubled since I started my project, but back then, I didn't know how much I'd need. Sure wish I had bought it in December!

I just bought all my steel brackets for framing and ledgers, and my bolts. They are starting to rise, but home depot hasn't raised the store prices yet, so I figured why not. Better to buy them now than pay another 20% in 8 weeks.

Insider for what it is worth info
New Holland Tractors
Replies 15 Post by HuckMeat

I faced this decision (3.73 vs 4.10) and found (doing the math from the driveline back) it was a very small difference in Engine RPM at highway speed. I chose the 4.10 for the added capacity after I convinced myself that the dmall RPM delta wouldn't make a significant economy difference over the life of the vehicle. Never regretted it.

3 73 vs 4 10
Pickup Trucks and Trailers
Replies 16 Post by HuckMeat

Lemme look at doing that. I can hopefully try in the next day or so. It might be doable, I'll report back. Perhaps art or someone has already tried.

The 'hoe definitly goes on and off quick - But I've always added/removed the links (4 bolts). If I could leave them on, that would be the ticket... I've just been doing mostly backone work, so I've not really tried.

What to pay for new BH90 w 12 bucket and street pads
Kubota Tractors
Replies 4 Post by HuckMeat

2 months ago I had the following quotes on new equipment:

L3130 HST, R4, LA723 w/ Quicktach, 72" bucket - $19,500

L3430 HST, R4, LA723 w/ Quicktach, 72" bucket - $20,500

L4330 HST R4, LA853 w/ Quicktach, 72" bucket - $23,000

BH90 Backhoe - $7395

3130
Kubota Tractors
Replies 3 Post by HuckMeat

I think most hydraulics leak down a little bit - hence the designed in lock pins, and the reason people store loaders lowered, booms locked, etc. Every backhoe I've seen (CUT or otherwise) has locking pins or some other mechanism for the boom.

My new backhoe stabilizers leak down about 3/8" per week when it is parked for long, but never more than about an inch total. Now I just make sure I have a backhoe job every couple of days, :)

BX23 Backhoe boom creeps
Kubota Tractors
Replies 9 Post by HuckMeat

I know CAT has a digital backhoe - you draw the excavation and send it in, and off it goes. Don't think it's for sale right now though....

Even an RC BX-22 might be fun... Drive into your neighbors garden... :)

Robotic SubCompacts
Kubota Tractors
Replies 11 Post by HuckMeat

When setting posts using a backhoe, don't you usually have soil disruption problems??? Do you compact by hand, or set your posts in concrete? Inquiring minds want to know!

shaver post hole digger
Operating and Attachments
Replies 5 Post by HuckMeat

Ken,

You definitly got a drag of a system. Waterfurnace blew it too.

After hearing about everyone who had bad problems, I was hesitent until I saw many good, identical systems running, in my area. (less than 2 mile radius). We may all be getting hosed, but I went to see identical systems to the one I selected before I did so, running in the same area. My other recouse is that being radiant based for the heat, if it's really screwed up, I just put in a boiler and slave to the propane gods.

I guess I've done my "homework", and ultimatly, I'll still be in the hands of my dealer/installer.

My contract ties the last 20% of their payment to the successful performance of their system for a 9 month period. I figure it's at least a little incentive for them to make sure the system runs right and I'm going to run it hard then, cooking the moisture out of my concrete slabs. :)

However, I owe my backround knowledge and healthy does of skepticism to John and Ken. Thanks for sharing your experiences guys, because it helps all of us be better consumers. When I interviewed my HVAC guys, I came loaded for Bear, and one contractor really stood out over the others when I started lobbing the tough questions.

Thanks again,
John

Geothermal heating cooling
Home Improvement
Replies 27 Post by HuckMeat

We are definitly approaching this the wrong way...

He needs a big ZTR mower AND a CUT.

HELP No clue what to get
Operating and Attachments
Replies 11 Post by HuckMeat

I have the 4330 with the hoe - Having had it for about 6 weeks, here are some options I got (thrown in) and as mentioned above, a couple I need to add.

Things I had thrown in:

2 sets of wheel weights.
Block Heater (cheap I'm sure).
Free transport for service or on-site service

Things I want to add, should have possibly negotiated for:

Front and rear hydraulic remotes
bucket cutting edge
worklights

Now an option I've not yet seen, but am considering adding:
A radio with waterproof speakers! I end up doing a lot of little hand work with the tractor off, and sometimes a radio would be nice (listen to the game, etc). I know I could just carry a battery powered portable one, but think of how out of control that project could become!

Kubota L48 options
Kubota Tractors
Replies 4 Post by HuckMeat

I can vouch for the BH90 backhoe (I've got mine on the 4330). Very strong, digs great, and digs to it's rated depth with ease. My soil is very rocky and hard clay, I use a 16" bucket.

My comparison was the 48 backhoe on the deere 4610 - The kubota hoe goes on and off MUCH easier - I really like the attachment system, and it is very solid, yet easy to disconnect.

Anyway, I can't offer much advice on the deere, but I've been very impressed with the BH90 hoe. Lots of clearance too, the subframe is very tucked up in the tractor, a very intergrated unit.

Deere 110 verses Kubota L48
John Deere Tractors
Replies 12 Post by HuckMeat

Right on!

After fooling a bit, what you guys were saying made complete sense, and worked great. I just had to hit 8' to prove I hadn't hit bedrock, and using the bucket, did just that.

With the smaller clearance holes, I end up having to move the dipper stick in to get it down in there, extend it, scoop, and then bring everything back through the paces to get it out of the hole. But it was good practice to get the hang of everything... Not sure I'd really need to dig deep skinny holes. I'll work on moderate trenches next.

Thanks!
John

Thanks again!

Backhoe Tutorial
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 5 Post by HuckMeat

1) 2004 Kubota L4330
2) Kubota
3) 4 (I think)
4) diesel, Hydrostatic drive
5) Tractor, 853 FEL with quick tach bucket
6) new
7) n/a
8) 31
9) private use
10) Borrow my brother in laws 20' car hauler, don't own a trailer for it.
11) Seeder, 72" furrow, 72" rhino box blade, BH90 backhoe, Rhino post hole digger (soon converting to hydeo PHD)
12) The backhoe. So much fun, such a worksaver.
13) Addition of a radio
14) She drives it on occasion, but I do all the work
15) Not yet
16) Not that I'm aware of, still learning
17) I'll do regular services myself

Survey of Member Equipment Hours Brand Used
Everything and Anything
Replies 39 Post by HuckMeat

To continue the off topic rant (perhaps I should put this in pointless and hostile). A little tractor-therapy for myself.<br>
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What a small world.<br>
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I currently work for Intel, and have been training my replacements in India for the last year. My last day is March 2nd. <br>
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Yeah, Craig Barret is a winner. He claims one week that they can't find engineers... And the next that no US jobs are being sent overseas. Yet<br>
I train legions of them. And work myself out of a job.<br>
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The small consolation is that they have hired 8 people overseas to do the work of 3 of us here, and the end customer is very unhappy as the new team has not been very effective. I imgaine those 8 still cost less than 3 of us here.<br>
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The ironic thing is that India is now losing jobs to Eastern Europe. <br>
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Not sure what the right fix is, but I'm actually looking at leaving tech and going back into more classical engineering and getting my PE. At least when somebodys welfare and safety is on the line, people still get nervous about sending it overseas. Either that, or work on something so big and heavy that it's cost prohibitive to ship/outsource.<br>
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I really hope that we will never use American military resources to defend the interests of any of these companies. <br>

Saw 5 new Farmpro s this morning
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 19 Post by HuckMeat

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Super guru murf knows everything! I figured you guys would know how to keep me from having to run off and buy a bunch of parts I don't need!<br>
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Hey folks - Any recommendations on good sources for hydraulic motors and suggestions on size? I have a L4330, which has ~9 gpm hydraulic system.<br>
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(off to fabricate!)<br>
John

hydro driven post-hole digger
Operating and Attachments
Replies 13 Post by HuckMeat