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It's my opinion that the way I have described the coverage, it covers for all non-commercial use but USAA disagrees. In effect, USAA is saying the following: Your neighbor goes away for a three week vacation. You decide to do him a favor and cut his grass with your riding lawn mower. USAA says that they interpret the ISO policy to read that your liability coverage ceased when you drove your lawn mower across your property line. They're full of it and would lose their rear ends if they denied coverage on that basis. The policy language just does not support that narrow an interpretation. ">  Insurance Coverage for Tractor
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A John Deere 3150 tractor was broken in for 50 hours with 100% D2. Fueling with a 50% blend of rapeseed methylester began at the 50-hour mark. Rubber fuel lines were changed for "viton" fuel lines. Routine maintenance included engine oil analysis of the lubricating oil and replacement of fuel, air and oil filters every 100 hours. No detectable power loss has been observed. Smoke emissions (opacity) appear reduced when performing heavy tillage loads.


The University of Idaho has monitored three 5.9L 6B Cummins powered diesel pickups that are powered with 100% rapeseed methyl ester (RME), 100% rapeseed ethyl ester (REE), and a 20% RME blend in # 2 diesel fuel. The Cummins engines were unmodified, but the rubber fuel lines were replaced with viton lines.


Rust was noted in the fuel system of the 1992 Dodge pickup that was fueled with 20 percent RME. Rust accumulated in the mild steel RME tank and the mild steel small mixing chamber. This vehicle also experienced the need for frequent fuel filter replacements. The mild steel tanks were changed to stainless steel and a different fuel supplier selected. These two changes have almost eliminated the excessive filter plugging. The fuel injectors were cleaned at 79,340 km (49,300 miles) due to rust. Otherwise, the vehicle has been driven normally; engine oil analysis did not indicate any abnormal engine problems.


A 1994 Dodge pickup has been driven under normal highway driving conditions. No engine modifications have been made to this engine except that the rubber fuel lines of this pickup were replaced. Engine dynamometer tests and oil analysis do not indicate any unusual problems.

A 1995 Dodge pickup has been operated by National Park Service personnel at Yellowstone National Park. The vehicle has been operated year round as a service vehicle during extremely cold weather. It has experienced slightly more fuel dilution of the lubricating oil than has the other RME fueled pickups. This may be due to the extended idling time during cold weather operation. A fuel line failed, but the engine has generally performed in a normal manner.
The major research issues that have surfaced during biodiesel research conducted in the public and private sectors are described below.


Blending of Biodiesel and Low Sulfur Diesel Fuel

To achieve consistent results with biodiesel requires that the fuel be thoroughly mixed. Initially, the biodiesel industry advocated a "splash" blending approach when mixing biodiesel and petroleum diesel fuel. A 20/80 blend of biodiesel and low sulfur diesel fuel (BD20) was prepared for Bi-State Development Agency in St. Louis, MO under these guidelines. Fuel sampling by MU researchers followed by fuel sample analysis indicated that "splash" blending was ineffective when blending in large storage tanks and that splash blending may have been responsible for the vast differences noted in fuel economy.

A demonstration project conducted by Fosseen Manufacturing and Development (Fosseen, 1995) also observed that splash mixing was inadequate, particularly when mixing was attempted when the two fuels were at different temperatures. In their project, 8000 gallons of very cold # 1 diesel fuel were added to a 10,000 gallon underground tank containing 2000 gallons of methyl soyate. They immediately encountered fuel filter plugging and later analysis showed that the fuels were inadequately mixed.


Research is needed to determine the amount of agitation required to ensure adequate mixing of biodiesel and diesel fuel. Research is also needed to determine whether conditions exist under which biodiesel could separate from petroleum diesel fuel.


Cold Starting Tendencies

Cold start issues have not been resolved, raising concerns for engine operators when fueling under adverse weather conditions. Researchers at the University of Missouri and the University of Idaho installed fuel tank heaters in their Dodge pickups to minimize these tendencies. The fueling of a diesel locomotive in St. Joseph, MO with a 20% biodiesel blend was discontinued after the engine experienced starting difficulties during cold weather.


Condition of Engine Lube Oil

Blackburn, et al (1983) noted unacceptable levels of ester contamination in the crankcase lubricant. Peterson, (1996) reported increases in engine oil dilution with the Yellowstone National Park "Truck in the Park" Dodge pickup that was fueled with 100% ethyl ester of rapeseed oil. However, a review of the engine oil analysis for five BD20 buses that have been fueled at Bi-State Development Agency in St. Louis, MO suggests that fuel dilution is negligible. The engine oil analysis of a 1991- 5.9L Cummins engine and a 1992- 5.9L Cummins engine that was fueled with 100% biodiesel by Schumacher (1995a, d) also suggests that fuel dilution is not a problem. Schumacher (1996) did not find any lubrication oil deposits on the head or in the oil pan when examining the 1992 engine after 100,000 miles of operation.


The OEMs have taken a conservative stand on this issue. It is their recommendation that the normal oil change interval should be cut by half to minimize problems associated with engine lubricating oil (Engine Manufacturers Association, 1995).


Cooling System Issues

A total of ten buses have been monitored at Bi-State Development Agency in St. Louis, MO. Of these buses, the five BD20 fueled buses required significantly more cooling system maintenance. Schumacher (1994a) also noted when testing tractors equipped with viscus clutch-type cooling fans, that the fan would engage more frequently when operating on blends as low as 10% biodiesel. Additional research is needed to confirm that this effect exists, but both of these situations suggest that the engine cooling system may need additional maintenance and that in some instances the capacity of the cooling system may need to be increased.


Engine Exhaust Emissions

Several research laboratories that have measured engine exhaust emissions produced by in-use engines have found that the data paralleled that previously reported in the literature: NOx increased while CO, HC, and PM usually declined. Peterson (1996), however, found very little if any increase in oxides of nitrogen emissions. Peterson used methyl and ethyl esters of rapeseed oil when testing biodiesel power and emissions. West Virginia University (Schumacher, 1995c), ORTECH International (ORTECH, 1995), and Cummins Engine Company researchers (Schumacher, 1995a) all used methyl ester of soybean oil.


Fuel Economy

The nine snow removal trucks operated by the IDOT experienced a 7% decrease in fuel economy. This is well beyond the decrease that would be expected due to the lower energy content of the fuel. Similarly, the buses at Bi-State Development Agency have also experienced excessive fuel economy decreases.


Fuel Filter Plugging

Some fuel filter plugging was noted during the start-up of biodiesel fueling at Bi-State Development Agency in St. Louis, Missouri. Periodic fuel filter plugging was also noted by the University of Missouri when fueling a 5.9L a 7.3L Navistar engine with a 20% blend of biodiesel for the city of Columbia. Peterson (1996) has also noted an increase in fuel filter plugging when fueling a pickup with a 20% biodiesel blend at the University of Idaho.


In some situations, a brown gelatin-like deposit has accumulated at the bottom of the OEM fuel tank. This material was subsequently found in fuel filters thus preventing the high pressure injection fuel pump from delivering the fuel needed by the engine. The origin of the materials plugging the fuel filters is unclear, however, elements such as iron, zinc, and others have been noted in the samples that have been analyzed. At the present time, the fuel properties that contribute to these problems are not known.


Fuel Quality

The University of Missouri researchers have noted an opaque cream-colored material suspended in some samples of biodiesel (Schumacher, 1996). A rust colored substance has settled to the bottom of OEM fuel tanks and the fuel storage tank. An analysis of this material by researchers at Iowa State University revealed that the rust colored materials contained iron. The cream-colored material was found to be high in mono-glycerides (6%).


University of Missouri researchers, when fueling the 1991- 5.9L 6B Cummins engine and the 1992- 5.9L 6B Cummins engine with 100% biodiesel, noted that the aneroid sensor of each high pressure fuel injection pump failed at approximately 50,000 miles. An analysis of the fuel indicated that the glycerin level of the fuel exceeded the draft biodiesel specification that has been established by the National Biodiesel Board.


Power losses were noted after 200 hours of fueling an N14 Cummins engine with a 20% blend (ORTECH, 1995). The power losses for the N14 were believed to be a result of fuel filter plugging brought on by the formation of a varnish-like residue in the fuel system. An analysis of the biodiesel indicated that the acid value exceeded the draft biodiesel specification.

Injector Failure

Nearly all of the buses that have been fueled with BD20 at Bi-State Development Agency in St. Louis, MO have experienced injector problems. Similar injector cavitation problems were noted at the end of a 1000 hour 6V92-TA durability test conducted at ORTECH with a 20% blend (Fosseen, 1995b). Tests conducted on the injectors of two 5.9L 6B Cummins engines at the University of Missouri and one N14 at ORTECH International have shown no injector problems (Schumacher, 1996 and ORTECH, 1995).


Questions concerning why injector cavitation was found when fueling a Detroit Diesel Corporation 6V92TA but not when fueling Cummins engines remain unresolved.


Material Compatibility

According to Schumacher (1995a), nitrile rubber fuel lines were replaced on the 1991 Dodge equipped with the 5.9L Cummins engine. This was not necessary for the 1992 pickup as Dodge began using a plastic type of fuel line in 1992. The fuel transfer pumps were replaced on both engines after 50,000 miles. Upon inspection, the diaphragm of each fuel transfer pump had deteriorated. This prevented the fuel transfer pump from delivering a full charge of fuel to the engine.


Material compatibility problems resulted in the replacement of four fuel valves, five electric fuel pumps, two mechanical transfer fuel pumps, and several fuel lines. The biodiesel industry recognizes the solvent capabilities of biodiesel and that problems will surface when fueling with 100% neat biodiesel. However, no hard data are currently available concerning material compatibility problems associated with biodiesel blends.


A related issue is whether biodiesel with its excellent solvency characteristics, will dissolve existing gums and sediments in fuel storage tanks. This could cause fuel filter plugging.


Smoke Increases

Some vehicles have exhibited a light gray exhaust smoke when idling. For example, a diesel locomotive in St. Joseph, Missouri was fueled with a 20% blend of biodiesel and petroleum diesel fuel for approximately six months. Slightly higher opacity readings were noted when fueling with the biodiesel blend as compared to petroleum diesel fuel.


A 5.9L Navistar engine that powered a para-transit vehicle and a 7.3L Navistar engine that powered a refuse truck in the city of Columbia, Missouri were fueled using a 20% blend of biodiesel and # 2 diesel fuel. The vehicles were quite new and very few miles had been logged prior to biodiesel blend fueling. Some filter plugging was experienced when fueling with the biodiesel blend. The biodiesel powered vehicles occasionally produced a gray-white smoke when fueled with biodiesel and the operators complained that the biodiesel fueled engines did not idle smoothly.


Questions such as "what conditions facilitated the formation of light gray smoke in the exhaust and will this condition inhibit the commercialization of biodiesel?" must be addressed..


Power Test Results

Some operators have complained that they have noted a reduction in power when fueling with a biodiesel blend. Chassis dynamometer testing conducted by the University of Idaho (Peterson, 1996) and the University of Missouri (Schumacher, 1995b, d)as well as laboratory testing by Southwest Research Institute (Sharp, 1994) and ORTECH Corporation (ORTECH, 1994) substantiates the concerns expressed by operators. Schumacher (1994a) however, reported that very small differences in power were detected until the concentration of biodiesel exceeded 50% by volume. The question remains, why has real world testing of biodiesel blends left operators with the perception that vast differences in power can be expected? Fuel filter plugging, the gum-like accumulation in injection pumps, and injector cavitation have been blamed for these differences. The quality of the fuel may, in fact, have contributed to each of the causes mentioned.


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