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2004-08-31          95152


Why is it hat you try to do every thing for them but they do not appreciate any of it and always expect more? I work 12 hours a day 6 days a week but she does not care. I am supposed to kiss her ass every minute of every day.

I am to the point where I am ready to tell here to take her stuff and get the hell out.

Am I the only one that is going through this? Any suggestions? I am loosing what is left of my mind.

PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!




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2004-08-31          95164


Sometimes that's the only thing you can do. I hear ya. I been there. ....


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2004-08-31          95166


Oneace, the grass is not greener on the other side of the hill? (I don't think I have that right). My wife gives me unending lists of work to do and is high strung. I can't invite my family over very often even though I have a palace for a place and would like to be at the center of the family. I think we have to take what comes our way and learn to live with it. You will substitute one problem for another. You have to look at the positive aspects of every person, which there are many. ....


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2004-08-31          95167


Next week will be our 15 year anniversary. Sometime she can make my blood pressure go plum off the scale and makes me feel like I need uproot oak trees but I have absolutely NO idea what I would do without her. Marriages do not come with a warrantee. You have to work at them everyday. I imagine that I am not the life of the party from time to time either. You gotta hang in there and communicate. Sometimes that means some hootin' and hollerin' but you still have to bear in mind that you are commited to her and your marriage. A LOT easier said than done. ....


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2004-08-31          95169


Oneace - are you married? If ya are...how long have you been? marriage is a carreer in it's self. And just like any carreer there are good pionts & bad pionts. A few years ago my wife & I went threw a tough time. We ended up seeing a conselor from our church. It helped majorly. You see we have horses & The year I built the barn was the year things went sour. I was working 12 hour days also, then I would come home & work 2 - 3 hours on the barn & fence. Then hit the shower & collapse. This is no way to live. You have to make time for each other. Buy her flowers tomarrow on your way home from work even though you may not want to & take her out to dinner. Do this once a week & things will improve. Also, At night when your in bed, turn the TV off & give her your undivided attention. Just a though. ....


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2004-08-31          95170


Well if you let yourself get walked on, then they will do just that if they can get away with it....

Have her go back to work...whats the point in having them sit around expecting things to be done for them...either they pull their weight or cut the boat anchor....see ya!!

If its thats bad go to some third party counciling, to find out if you even have a relationship

There is always the option of getting some on the side? not that I'm condoning that type of immoral behavior :)~

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2004-08-31          95172


Oneace,

I read your "Please help me" I wish I could my friend.
the best advice I could possibly give is it is obvious one or both of you have to start doing something different!!

I must tell you that sometimes things are just BROKEN, after 38 years I recycled mine!!

If you just need to talk My e-mail is in my profile but I am no substitute for an on site unbiased friend!

Best of luck,
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2004-08-31          95173


It has been two years. I know it has not been a long time to most but I am only 24. If it is like this now what will it be like in 5 or 10 years. I already take Valium to help control my outbursts. You see she has been spoiled by her parents her whole life. They paid all her bills ect. She is 25 years old I tell her it is time to get off her mothers tit and take responsibility for her self. I have been on my own since I was 15 years old. Pay my own bills and now hers. there seems to be no reasoning with her. I love her but I do not like her if that makes any sense? She does work but I do not know what she does with her money.She gives me about $200 a month the pay for $2500 a month in bills.

Do you think I stay with her for fear of being alone?

I have so many emotions running through my head and i can not concentrate on any of them.

As you all know I am an a$$ hole in here and in life. Maybe it is me. I am so confused my head is spinning. ....


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2004-08-31          95176


Far be it for me to give advise, but, please find a marriage counselor. It will help.

(I wish I could, the wife won't go.) ....


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2004-08-31          95178


The funny thing is I have had the chance to have one on the side but I have the damn thing called a concisions. Came reel close but i almost vomited with guilt. And i never even kissed the girl it was just the thought of what might have happened. ....


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2004-08-31          95179


Whoa!! There!!
First. Get off The dope, no 24 year old should be on that crap (Valium or any other kind)

Second. TAKE A BREAK FROM YOUR SITUATION!! You can't see the forest for the trees!

At 24 your just starting and a mistake is just that a MISTAKE!!

Get a grip man, no one can do it for you!!

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2004-08-31          95182


The doctor said at this point in time with stress at work and other factors in my life that that is the best med for me. I have tried Paxil, Effexor, Zoloft among other things this is the only thing that keeps my mood in check. I do not like it but if i do not take it bad things happen. I have only been on it for 2 weeks and the changes in my state of mind have been drastic. I an also limited to 1 month of use. So it has not been a habit. ....


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2004-08-31          95187


marrage is 50/50 !
I JUST HAD MY 15 YR ANNIVERSARY
IF THERE IS NO CHILDREN INVOLVED CUT HER LOOSE !!
24 IN MY OPION IS TO EARLY TO GET MARRIED AND IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS NOW KIDS ONLY 3.14 (PI) X XXXX(3) CUBED TO THE NEAREST 10,000 COMPLICATES THE EXSITING ONES !!!!! ....


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2004-08-31          95191


I have only been in one long term relationship before in which I produced my daughter(pic 8) that ended pretty bad. I am young and have no experience. It is sad to say but i learn from others mistakes. if it were up to me I would keep running into the same wall time after time until some one stopped me.

Any way thanks for listening and responding Because i am an a$$ hole I do not have many Friends you guys are about the ones I can count on for the truth no matter how bad it is. Again thanks. ....


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2004-08-31          95198


I have been married for almost nine years. We have had our rough times but to me, divorce is not an option. I am no counselor but it sounds like both of you are living a life about "self"...or what is in it for me? If you are putting your energy into yourself and trying to get even with the things that she does to you, your marriage will never work. Until you devote some time and attention to her needs, she will not care about yours. Marriage is 90% about giving. If you appreciate and compliment her and show her true thanks, she will begin to do the same. At first, you may feel "run over" by her but consistency in your life will bring security in both your lives. Please get some counciling prior to any decision. A Christ-centered church would be a great place to start looking for answers. I wish you only the best. ....


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2004-08-31          95204


I have been married 23 years. There are many moments in any marriage where you wonder what might have been. Here are the reasons for divorce:
1) wife is cheating on you
2) wife killed your kids
3) wife is a drug addict who doesn't know her name.

Financial reasons don't count. If your wife can't manage money you go broke. If the sex life isn't what you envisioned you take matters into your own hands. :) If your wife makes your life miserable, you buy another tractor.

I agree with others about buying your woman flowers - I should take that advice also. After you survive the shock that life won't be what you dreamed it would be, you learn to somehow deal with it. Maybe you learn to become a friend to your wife. It takes time.
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2004-09-01          95220


Ncrunch & DK - Well said! I agree. And I agree with dean also about the drugs.
Once - being young as you are is the time to make mistakes. It is an age of a building block. What you experience now will make you a mentally stronger man later. Hang in there unless she is doing one of the things ncrunch listed. I understand the Valume may help but it isnt the answer. When I was your age I was very simular to you. It sounds like you really love her seeing that you weren't able to touch anouther women. As I did, You will mature with time. I dont let as much stuff get to me as I used to. Hang in there man. You should start taking Saturdays off if you can just to do things that you enjoy whether with or without her. The more time you spend by yourself, the more grounded you will get & the outcome will be more peace in our mind. ....


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2004-09-01          95233


As everyone says, marriage is about giving and right now it sounds as if she is doing her fair share of taking, which sounds like counseling is needed. As has been said here, find a good church and get into counseling there.
I married young as well at 22. We have had good and bad times but the main thing was staying together and being faithful. If most people work as hard towards their marriage as they do at work, marriages would be in better shape. If possible slow down a little working such long days. You have to have time for her.
A woman is similar to a tractor, there are always things you wish you could change and some things you can(like Ken's R-4 tires) and other things you can't (limited lift height on the BX series). You have to learn to deal with the things you can't change, and most likely you knew the issues before you made the commitment. Most of the time people can learn to live with the small issues and sometimes you have to trade in and get another one but remember there will be issues with that one as well.
Also one other note, you state you are an a$$hole, so if you know this, maybe you should do some counseling on your own to try and improve yourself and the way you view yourself.
Good luck and take care. ....


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2004-09-01          95235


Yikes!! I thought this was not so serious at first, just a guy venting...but it seems more than that...

You need to confide in someone other than here, and someone who dosent prescribe pills (or legal authority to do so)
that will eliminate to source of the pills. Its doubtful you need the medication unless you are medically dependant on them to survive or function normally...
The number one reason for divorce is finacianial - and what happens when the money gets tight....
24 isnt young anymore, and old enough to make decisions and not to feel sorry for yourself. I'm sure a gun wasnt pointed to your head to get married. Find the reason whay you did get married and focus on them...Get outside help, go to a gym and workout (take care of yourself). If you only have friends on the Internet than the problem is you I'm affraid to say....start with that first

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2004-09-01          95244


Long and in two parts:

I.

Well, I've always had some difficulty with relationships and I've learned to take some ARRRAUGH with women along with the AHHHH. With an X of mine there ultimately was too much ARRRAUGH--far too much. I made a bargain with myself that she could live her life and me mine and just share the house. She eventually felt the bleakness of that arrangement and left. It was both of us not simply her. I think she found something better. I know I did--maybe I learned something about myself while we were together. Maybe she learned from me as well. In retrospect I'd describe her as spoiled as well.

From my simple view I think I've found that many women feel that men fill up a room and they need to defend themselves or become entirely alter egos. Women want to talk about feelings. They don't necessarily want their men to always explain or fix things--that's what filling up a room is about. When they're crowded they tend to use words to defend themselves and since many start out early in live talking to dolls, they tend to be better with words than most men--far better.

With my X I came to think of words as legal instruments of violence that my X welded far better than I. My tactic was to ignore her. I retained my respect for her music but lost any respect for her personality and intellectual integrity. She felt that and left--which was at least workable for both of us and probably more to her credit than mine.

It's like night and day with my wife for going on seven years now. I see how she's solved her own life problems and have complete respect for her as a person. Some the things she's dealt with left scars and I can bounce off them in ways that hurt a bit but that's OK. It's a far better life then I had any right to expect for my own sorry soul. I do tend to be long on fixing and explaining things and I do get THE WORDS from time to time. There's always a bit of ARRRAUGH in relationships. It goes away when I stop taking up so much space in the room. ....


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2004-09-01          95245


Long and in two parts:

II.

For the rest of it I don't presume to give advice. A psychiatrist I worked for back in my research days was musing about his profession and said 'Who do we think we are? A personality spends 20 years or more dealing with problems without a lot of help before we see them. They end up with their own ways of dealing with things some of which cause problems. An adult human personality is one of the more complex things in the universe and do we really think we can change much in something that took 20 years to develop? He also said that without changing things the profession can be pretty good at giving people the insight to identify situations they should stay out of before they find themselves there.

Hope this helps some. But, rest assured that everybody does have qualities that others will value in the right situations. Some of us have more trouble than others in finding those spots. Yes, and sometimes finding those spots comes from others rather than doing it all ourselves. It took me over 50 years to find mine and some of those were touch and go. Nothing wrong with net relationships--after all these are modern times and smetimes they can be just the spot. They don't quite have the AHHHH I mentioned though ....


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2004-09-01          95252


Formula for a successfull marriage......A TON OF LUCK.

I married my best friend of 6 years who happened to be a doll. 24 years later, she's still my best fiend and still a doll.

A TON OF LUCK. I'm not smart enough to have figured it out any other way. Nobody is. ....


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2004-09-01          95278


Well....

I have been married a long time (25 years) but I didn't get married until I was 29 and had numerous relationships, some more serious than others, before I decided to get married.
Here are my thoughts:

Marriage is something you have to work at EVERY day. Not just on the weekend or when you have the energy/time. As someone mentioned, a bunch of flowers or a phone call during the day just to see how your spouse is doing goes a long way. There has to be a great amount of give and take on each side. You must spend quality time with them and try to be inclusive in your activities rather than constantly being alone working on some project, computer, etc.

Age is not wholely indicative of maturity. I've known 19 year olds that I would trust my with life and 50 year olds I wouldn't trust with my goldfish. Everyone's life experience's are different and some of us had to grow up quicker than others. While it may make us wiser in the ways of the world, it doesn't necessarily make us more mature regarding relationships.

Money may not buy happiness but it can make it a lot easier to be happy. It can't be your money or my money but it has to be OUR money. Everyone has to have some money that is truly theirs to do with as they want. BUT, that money should be determined and distributed after the bills and savings are taken care of and any large dicretionary items are discussed and approved or rejected. It is crucial to save something each paycheck, even if it's a nominal amount. It grows to a tidy sum that can be a buffer if an emergency should arise.

You've got to talk. The toughest thing in the world to do is to sit down with someone who has the capability of making you happier or more miserable than any other person in the world and calmly, rationally discuss problems in your relationship. Not all couples are capable of this and it is imperative they seek counseling. If your spouse refuses to go, go by yourself. At the least you'll get some insight into why you feel the way you do.

Try your damnedest to make things work, but if they don't, be prepared to decide if you are going to be happier (or less miserable) with her or without her. Children are important but "staying together for the kids" is the absolute worst reason to stay married. Not only are the parents miserable but the kids will be affected for years.
Although it's very hard to do, it's much better to part as friends. It may not seem like it but life does go on and things WILL get better.

oneace, I hope everything works out for you.

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2004-09-02          95401


Thank you all for your comments. It has helped me open my eyes a little wider. Still confused but as they say Rome was not built in a day. I am sure in time what is meant to be will be. ....


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2004-09-03          95550


Oneace
Looks like you have plenty of advice in the marriage area so I will not give you mine from 19 years of marriage. I will give you this though. This will be hard and maybe long but read it.
Dont listen to just one doctor or even two. Pshc's, sometimes are even worse. My father, a retired narcotics dective is now gone. 11 years ago the docs told him he needed xanax. Now for the rest of the story...
This man was a ball to be around, great guy but did not trust people he did not know (from his job I think). He would get tense around others so the doctor decided to take his life from him and give controll of it to his bottle of xanax. (Your med is the same)
Oneace... This is the perfect drug for company's and doctors to get rich on. The more you take... the more you need to feel the same... The longer your on it... the longer it takes to "ween" off it. These meds feed themselves... like a parasite in your body. I have seen this first hand but by the time I knew what was going on it was too late. He had slowly increased his meds just to feel "normal" then he got divorced again and anouther phyc put him on paxil also!!! This was his undoing! the last 2 years of his life he was living in his anxiety med bottles. Watching the clock instead of hitting golf balls.
This man went from being a towering image to a dependant old man before it should of happened. I took his meds from him in the hospital so he could not self medicate himself while also getting what the hospital was giving him... That is when I realized how bad he was. We were peeling him off the walls, clock watching in the room with never turning on the tv just waiting for the next time the meds were to be passed out and screaming if they were late!!!! Oneace ... this in a nightmare get off it now!!!
he could not leave his house without a few in his pocket,
the doctors just precribed MORE to ease the symptoms. By the time (5 months ago) I stepped in and told the doctors that the jig was up? He was already admitting to his addiction to it but could not controll it and would lie without batting an eye. My wife is a nurse, she would testify to everything I have said. I could go on and on but wont. I am talking about my best friend who was father who has passed recently.
If you really need help do it with out meds!!!! Oneace.. do a quick search on these meds and read all the posts from people addicted to them and how they beg for help getting off. Oneace,,, your smallest problem will soon be your wife!!! And you will lose her for sure if you stay on these meds. There are options other than meds for your stress and condition, pursue them!
If you want the whole story and facts I can provide them e-mail me, for I have lived in the horror story your about to enter. I would not preach this on the board ebarressing my fathers name if I did not feel so strongly about this. yes some people NEED these meds. YOU ONEACE do not. you hold down a job, 12 hours a day??? You dont NEED these pills. They may help you thru these troubled times but soon you will have more problems than you ever would imagine!!!!
Take care buddy, take a big breath and post here often when you get stressed dont feel like you cant talk to us
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2004-09-04          95562


As often as I post here, about five times in 3 years, I have to agree wholeheartedly with Broken arrow.. We offered to help a VN veteran from Louisiana. Never met the guy before and only some token phone calls. He was with us a month.. Long story short, he was, like thousands of vets, placed on zanax, clamazapan and many more.. My wife, and X RN, was in shock to count 54 pills a day taken by this guy. The point being, the VA system in LA in their infinite wisdom,and over a period of ten years placed him on all these drugs, which slowy was frying his brains.. Once to the point we got him, he was no longer a thorn in their side.. Four divorces, four daughters that don't want to know him, no one else for that matter,, The month he was with us was beyond trying.. Last I heard, he has weaned himself off about half the daily intake.. Still, no one wants to know him, deal with him or other,, His mood swings are radical and everything else that goes along with it..Not a good way to finish life off. BTW, we offered to help him, and I took him to the Boston VA system several times a week during his month stay.. It was Boston that started him to reverse all this intake of pills. I'm not a doctor, a psychologosts/psychiatrist or anything else.. I do know what these zanax and other things do after a peiod of time.. I also agree that some of these specialist doctors are worse for a person.. Especially the ones who push drugs.. ....


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2004-09-04          95577


I have a split personality. I was not able to control which one was doing the talking and the actions. The first and the normal is the nice easy going guy that most people like and trust.

The second that I do not even know when it is there until it is too late is very verbally abusive, and some times physically. I have not ever laid a finger in her and hope that I never do. Inanimate objects (wall doors or what ever is in my hand at the time) get the brunt of my second side.

Yes I know that Valium is very addictive and possibly dangerous. But I am will to take that risk to keep my first personality at all times. I have been to all the phycs. ect. with no help.

When my second personality come out it is like I am looking in a mirror at myself but can not stop my reactions. I do not want to hurt anyone mentally or physically.

For me meds seem the only solution, I do not like it but I have to deal with it to keep my splits in check.

P.S. I have only been taking Valium for 2 weeks. I personally am very happy with the results. I have been once again become nice easy going guy that I once used to be all the time. ....


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2004-09-04          95587


Oneace
Like lamarbur, I do not claim to be a doc. nor a profesional in anyway shape or form. I am just a guy who took care of a loved one that had serious issues with these meds. I agree that some people NEED these drugs. The unfortunate problem of this society is that too many people that need "other forms" of controll are put on life altering drugs. It sounds like you need to take care of yourself first and formost. Do not stop trying to find other ways to controll your outbursts. You are 24? It sounds like you have held down this job well? I have a hard time understanding that you could stay employed for any length of time at a place and have violent outbursts?
I cant comment anymore on this, Its still very hard for me to talk about experiances with my father. Please dont listen to much of what I say for I am not a professional. I will end with a few words of advice for I have been around this block a few times myself.
You are 24, you really have alot of life experiances to experiance before you may understand what I am saying.
A few rules to follow as close to as you can.
1. Dont drink a drop of alchol. Quit!!!! Your Mood
swings will increase dramatically when intoxicated.
2. Search out all forms of NON precriptive ways to
controll yourself.
3. Do not think you need to stay on pills to stay
married. Your young, you have no kids with her
you have your life you need to take care of.

Here is a saying my dad used to tell me all the time when I was your age and younger. This is coming from a cop who had seen alot already in his life.
"I see more young men DEAD or killed over a woman. I have to send one man to jail for the rest of his life and one man is 6 foot under, while within the month, the lady who this all happened over is screwing anouther guy"

He would follow up with something like, "if she is causing you that much pain in your life you need to step back and take care of yourself and your health first.

Good luck buddy I wish the best for you!
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2004-09-04          95589


Thanks for all your works of advice broken. Believe me they have seen my outbursts at work. None directed toward costumers but rather my management and parts dept. Evey one in there know to just leave me alone and all is good. I am trying to get out of the stress of twisting wrenches and get into the sales area which will be a whole lot less stress.(not to mention $$$) ....


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2004-09-04          95594


You are running,searching,and looking for every opportunity to place blame on everything but where it belongs!!
Sales is the most stressful and rejection filled experience you will ever encounter!!!!!!!!!!!
This thread is filled with good people trying there best to help (sympathize) with you and you still don't get it!!

I will give you one finial word from one who has dealt with many who think like you do my young friend!

You are so self indulgent you wallow in your own urine and until someone you respect and or just plain life slaps the living Sh&t out of your young pitiful being you will continue down this road of destruction! How dare you whimper and whine when you have so much ahead of you?

Would you respect someone who whines and complains like you do! NO you wouldn't and either will I!!!!
You asked for my help at the beginning of this thread AND WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT !! YOU JUST GOT IT!!!!!
Stop the pity party and do it now or shut up!!
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2004-09-05          95599


Oneace: My take on your comments is nothing like the above. But, opinions that cost nothing in the giving may hold little value, and mine is just another opinion.

More opinion, and just remember that it's cheap: You are the only person who knows what the problems are and what helps. Sounds to me like you are coming to grips with them and figuring out what works. You are the only person who can and there's nothing wrong with accepting some assistance doing it.

Each of us is a one-of-a-kind in that there's never been another person exactly the same. That does mean that nobody (absolutely nobody) is capable of judging another person. It also means that nobody else can be responsible for anther's life. We all bear that responsibility for ourselves and nobody else can or should try. Doesn't mean it's easy, and some us carry more baggage than others. Just hang in there and remember that you do contribute to the content of this board. ....


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2004-09-05          95610


Archdean:

I would not say that I am whining but maybe venting.
Here is some more "venting" I would like to take your face and shove it through a concrete wall. Hell you must be god damn perfect. I am soo sorry for taking up your valuable time. Send me a fu--ing bill you piece of $hi+.

Yeah I know those comments were not necessary and very belligerent, but it is just the "whiner" in me. ....


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2004-09-05          95611


That's good,now maybe your mad enough to take charge of your life and really help yourself!!

Goodluck,
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2004-09-05          95613


Dude like I said before I have been taking care of my self since I was 15. You need you realize what is whining and what is venting.

This whole thread started as a way to seek advice about women. That area I am not too well knowledgeable on.

Now at 24 I make in excess of $45 thousand a year with nothing but a H.S. diploma. I must be doing some thing right in the life area.

I am independent and do not know how to compromise on letting some one else in to share in my life. That was the what I was trying to get out of this thread.

The thing with the meds is irrelevant at this point. I can take care of my self and have learned how to take care of my child, but with out a woman there to work around. That is my problem that is what I was seeking advice on. ....


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2004-09-05          95616


success is never measured by the amount in ones wallet...

Plenty of folks who cant think for themselves, or take care of themselves but have money...they are still poor and always will be...

I also would suggest getting an education and start making more money...

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2004-09-05          95617


If you could have stated this in this manner from the get go, this thread probably would have gone in a different direction, with much different replies to yout original question ....


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2004-09-05          95631


Onace, Here is how you started this thread!
Quote "Am I the only one that is going through this? Any suggestions? I am loosing what is left of my mind.

PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!" End Quote...

First: I am not a "dude"! And if I did the math right I am 40 years more experienced in life than you and there is a good reason that the young seek guidance from elders rather then the other way around!

Second: Your still refusing the Help that you "ASKED FOR"!!!!

Third: You said you can take care of yourself, well then why are you still looking for easy convenient answers, when there aren't any!!!

Take a few minutes and read all the wandering excuses you have given for your plight and inability to cope with life's problems! After you have done that and you are still not seeing the real problem in your life, just how in hell are you going to take care of your four year old daughter cope with her growing problems?

Get off the pity wagon and become a good example of a parent! YOU OWE NOTHING LESS TO HER!!!!!!

Dean not "Dude"
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2004-09-05          95636


This thread went from heart felt & serious to a humorous pissing contest. Dean - I am 10 years older then Oneace, My father is the same exact age as you & you remind me of him (same attitude). And I believe he raised me well with lots of disipline, However, Oneace is in a different generation & may not understand or except the concept you are using. Lets all have peace! ....


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2004-09-05          95637


Grasgod:

You are indeed a wise 34 year old Man and Your father is to be commended! Which is my point exactly if you get it, why can't he (Oneace)! To your credit I know you do not sit idly by and wait for the fix-it gods to cure your every problem!
Once again I am honored that I remind you of your Dad!
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2004-09-05          95646


Well at least you all had fathers to give you guidance.

As for the statement that I can take care of my self means in the life making decisions. Not romance/ relationship status. As i am used to fending only for 2 I now have 3.

My statement about the money I make was to state that I am capable of success. I Know quite a few collage grads that do not have such good luck.

I know I have problems. And I DO NOT try to make excuses for them, I am stating the cause of them.

Every body know your up bringing has a lot to do with the way you turn out as an adult. My father was an you know what (left when I was 9) I tried to do the best I could but I Guess it was not good enough.

Archdean the attitude you have I would not be surprised if your kids hate you too. ....


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2004-09-05          95648


"Archdean the attitude you have I would not be surprised if your kids hate you too."

As usually my young friend you are wrong once again I have two Daughters older than you and they show no such animosity, just the opposite!!

My Career has involved leading Tens, Hundreds, Thousands, and no such words were ever vocalized by anyone!!

I now have the good fortune at my age to have a 7 and 14 year old Boys living in my home and what I see and those that know me is nothing short of respect on their faces, perhaps you might want to rethink that statement you just foolishly uttered!!

Blaming me will in no way help you mature, suggest you do it soon as life is short and you are way behind the curve!!

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2004-09-05          95649


My memory must be going too. I did not realize I was blaming you? ....


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2004-09-05          95651


Oneace - I employ 8 guys & 1 woman that is your exact age. I consider all of them my friends. One of them Rents from me. 4 of those 24 year old guys have no dad's or their dad's left at a young age like your situation. One of them has 2 small children. These guys work simular hours to you & make simular money. They all have their own issues but as we all do but are good guys. Everyday I enjoy watching these men grow & mature just a little bit. If you are aware you have a temper problem or attitude problem basically what we're all saying is to be aware of it & put in a little effort everyday to try harder to correct it. I have been reading your posts now for 6 months or more & I see that you are intellegent! You can do this & by doing this you will become a better father & a better role model as a father. So keep your head up, chest out & stand secure, You can do it! AS for women, Just get used to it. Thet are all very simular. ....


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2004-09-05          95655


What scares me the most out of any thing in this world is me turning in to my father. I can see more of him in me every day and i get worried, What is my daughter going to think of me in 10 or 20 years. But believe me I try my damnedest to be the best father in the world in fact she is my world. What really gets me is when she is around when me and her step mother get into it. I remember what it was like for me and it is no place for a child to be.

To finally try to end this thread I really care less about my happiness. All I want is for my child to be loved and know that she is loved. TO HELL with women!! All they do is make life difficult. I will just smile and nod from now on. ....


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2004-09-06          95663


O.K. so I am back again.

Nature vs. Nurture? What are your feelings on that?

I have not been around my father a very often. Even when my parents were married he alienated me (among other things), but I saw how he treated my mother(like garbage).

So is my behavior learned, or inherited genetically?
You see I was around him just enough that it could go either way. Right or wrong?

If it is learned then maybe I can unlearn it.
But what if it is genetic? Am I screwed for the rest of my life to be a jerk that nobody likes.

Archdean
You seem to be pretty level headed at what is your perspective of this.

I am not trying to whine or complain I just do not have time $$ for a shrink.

I am trying to be open to any suggestions that may be out there.

Like I said some times i am a nice guy other times i am not and I want to be the nice guy all the time with out MEDS.!!!

I know i come across hash I am not good at taking criticism, and I speak before I think.

Dean, I am sure you are a wonderful father and I apologize for my previous comments. And as I also said before I really do not care if I am rotting in a corner some where as long as my daughter is happy. I do not want her to do through what I am going through now.(yeah yeah whine whine) I just want what is best for her as all fathers do(well almost all).

My thoughts are just twisted in knots and I can't seem to find the right solution. I also know that my skull is about 10" thick so it takes allot of pounding for me to finally grasp what I am being told.

As a final note I do respect ALL and I do mean ALL of you hear. I never mean to hurt any ones feelings or make them fell stupid or inferior.

What I want is to help people with the tractor problems and concerns. Yeah I'm 24 but I have been holding a screw driver and a wrench since I could crawl.

I just want to get my head strait so I can help here and else where more.


You guys are all great
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2004-09-06          95664


Tony, when they give you the pre-flight lecture on the airlines, they tell you if the cabin looses pressure and the O2 masks drop out of the ceiling that you should put yours on first before you try to help your kids.

Life is not about sacrifice. The best gift you can give that kid is a healthy and balanced dad to turn to when trouble comes upon her.

The bible says to get the stick out of your eye before you try to get the splinter out of your brothers eye.

Get your mask on..... take care of yourself first. ....


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2004-09-06          95665


Women are not all evil, but I agree you don't need a woman in your life at the moment. Sounds like you got an awful lot of crap to deal with. It's far more important you get things sorted out. It's pretty much impossible to find happiness with another person till you're able to find happiness alone.

As for not having the time for a shrink, in my opinion I think you should reconsider. That's like saying you don't have the time to take proper care of yourself. Your emotional well-being is far more important than missing an hour of work here or there. Money is worthless if you're unable to be happy.

Hang in there! Sounds like you're doing a good job managing the problems you've been having. Don't fall into the trap where you're spending time trying to figure out what person to blame most for your unhappiness. These things don't matter. You can't change the past or the fact some people may have treated you crappy before. Focus on what you CAN change.

And as you get older I think you'll find things will get easier. What's really important in life becomes more clear, and the little stuff won't bug you so much anymore.

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2004-09-06          95686


Nature vs nurture sure is a complicated subject. A simple view is that we are born with very general capabilities and tendencies, but it's experience that makes for specific reactions to specific situations. Anything we experience never really goes away, it just becomes part of us and how we react. Nurture, especially during early years is a particularly important part of experience, and it can be good, bad or just inadequate for the situations in which persons later finds themselves.

The important point is that while nothing really goes away, the bad, the inadequate and also good parts of it can get diluted or concentrated by choices we make in later life. We get better at bringing what we can do to what we face and we also get better at picking our situations. We also can choose situations where what we can do is an advantage. The good news is that nothing is cast in stone and we get to choose a lot about what we are and what we do. The difficult part is making choices that keep making us better. The bad part of experience can be concentrated as well as diluted.

Bad experience can create 'tape loops' for us. We always react to the same thing in the same way, and those reactions may not be what we do well or help us at all--got to learn to step around those situations. I carry my own load of anger for my own reasons. I've learned that venting my spleen makes me feel better but doesn't do anything for anybody else. I can be right as rain at least in my own mind but my anger is my own thing. I didn't necessarily choose it but it's mine to manage. It does help me do some things as long as I don't dump it on others who may be just innocent bystanders. I've learned to do things in ways that don't keep playing those tape loops.

The choices I've made also are realistic for me. I'm an ordinary person and just an educated hick. I'd never be a pro athlete, movie-star lover or command a boardroom, and I'd give myself a bad time if I were stuck with those goals. I did find a career, played competitive sports as an adult and eventually found a life partner. Took awhile but it's eventually happy making stuff. WE GET TO MAKE CHOICES AND DON'T SWEAT THE NATURE STUFF. ....


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2004-09-06          95728


I've been gone a few days and, to my dismay, this thread has taken a decidedly negative turn.

Dean,

As you so candidly point out, you are about 40 years older than Tony and appear to have a gee-whiz, dandy life. I guess I have to wonder if many years ago, at least once or twice, didn't you ever feel completely overwhelmed by circumstances? If not, you are indeed blessed.

I think that Tony has taken the first step to resolving his problems by admitting his has them and trying to do something about it. I concur with those that advise to try ALL other alternatives before resorting to prescription drugs but the fact remains that for some people they are the last resort and the only option. I'm not sure what you were referring to about sales being very stressful. While very true, I believe Tony is a technician at a tractor dealership. I believe that for someone his age, he's doing very well financially and has a job that he seems to really like. I imagine that many people would be happy if they could say the same.

While "tough love" may have worked for your daughters and the many employees you applied it to, I'm not sure that it works for everyone. To demean and disparage someone and what they hold dear will undoubtedly cause a reaction. I'm just not sure it will be the one I hope you meant to elicit.

I do disagree with one thing Tony says. If he made $45,000 last year, he certainly can afford counseling. His church or the city/county medical society where he lives should be able to refer him to a competent counselor.

I hope Tony can sort all this out and I wish you both well.

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2004-09-06          95732


Tony - ,ost church's offer free conseling. Mine did & it helped my attitude & marriage greatly. ....


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2004-09-06          95733


To paulss and My young friend Oneace(Tony)and an open letter to all who have posted on this thread attempting to help a fellow member when he originally Boldly asked for help!!

1. This thread has not taken a decidedly negative turn, it has in fact had the exact impact, experience has taught me that it would have!

2. If I have a gee-whiz, dandy life it is only through hard work, survived three years of active combat and all it entails (read a full military career and had to move lock-stock& barrel 21 times in the course of that career (incidentally while raising a family and keeping a marriage together), applying my god given talents and never ever looked to others to solve the problems it was in my purview as a man to solve for myself!

3.Tony is doing well financially but just how long will it be till his uncontrolled outbursts cause him to lose that job and that security?

3.A reaction from this young man other than whining and blaming all things other than himself is and was exactly what was needed and is precisely what I gave him!!

4.You and other well minded posters are unquestionably better equipped to counsel Tony than I am and I will leave it up to all of you to carry on. I got his attention and you will do him a great disservice if he himself and well minded people allow him to revert to the way he was just a few days ago!!

5. The big difference in what I do and act is "I don't just hope someone can do something I know damn well they can do it and it is incumbent on me to make them! Let's be honest if I can cope with the cards life dealt me as well as many others (I won't bore you) then surely this young man can handle this self imposed pity party!

6.Thank you Tony for the apology it shows me you are being rational! You have a lot of good people that care about you and YOU OWE THEM for they have shown you not only compassion but friendship as well and YOU better not let them down!!

This will be my last post to this thread and I too wish all of you the very best!

Doing will! Hoping won't!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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2004-09-07          95821


It is not that I can not afford therapy, it is that right now work is demanding many long hours and I do not have the time at this point. I am currently looking for a phyc. that will suit my needs. Like every thing else I like to shop around and get local referrals. For me church is not really an option I lost my faith a few years ago seeing too many good people hurt or killed for no apparent reason. I do believe in a higher power though at this point i do not know what that higher power may be. There are thousands of religions out there and the basis of them all is a higher power which ever it may be so maybe I am safe in my belief maybe I will burn but who is to say.

Anyway thank you all for your comments and advice I know I will make it through this time in life just as i have in the past. Some times the stress just gets too high and I do not know where to turn.

It is easier to talk to you guys probably because you are all faceless nameless strangers in the most part. ....


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2004-09-22          97041


The hardest thing in the world to do is keep your woman in line. I don't think they make a tractor with enough horse power for that. ....


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2004-09-27          97293


I feel like kicking mine in the a-- at least once a day. Lazy is not the word for her & attitude ...

Whtat's with women anyway? They get coddled to beat the ban then if it goes wrong it's the man's fault!

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