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 | daveg
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2002-12-25 46552
i'm trying to devise a implement for lifting up brush to move it to a pile for burning.. has anyone ever seen something that can be used on the front of a tractor in place of the bucket besides forks.. i bought an old dung bucket and plan on making a contraption that will pick up brush that was cut with a brush saw..it needs to grab it not just lift it.. i'd like to see something like this before i start...
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 | Peters
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3034 Northern AL 
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2002-12-25 46555
There are 2 items that I have seen to move brush. On is a set of forks with a hydraulic operated arms over the top that close on the brush. The other is a 4 in 1 loader bucket. There are pictures of both in the URL I finally found. ....
Link: Carver
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| daveg
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2002-12-28 46657
exactly what i was looking for.. i can build that! ....
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| hardwood
Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3583 iowa
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2002-12-28 46660
Check the john Deere website, I bought a grapple attachment for picking up brush that fits a 5000 series loader and easily adapted it to my model 725 Deere loader. It could probably be adapted to your loader too. I moved lots of brush with it this fall, and it worked great. You do however need a third hydraulic outlet on the tractor to operate the grapple cylinders. ....
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley
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2002-12-29 46666
A consideration is whether the grapples raise high enough so the loader bucket can be used normally to scoop stuff up. I'm not sure that any of these type grapples can do that. However, I believe that grapples can be easily removed on the unit sold by Carver. It would be good to build that sort of feature into a homegrown one. ....
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| hardwood
Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3583 iowa
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2002-12-29 46667
Tom I mounted the grapple so that two pins and two hyd couplers will take it off. You can do regular loader work with it on, but it's a little clumbsy ....
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| davegoodine
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 12 maine
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2002-12-29 46676
i'm thinking just a bucket type will work fine for what i have in mind i don't need to spin the load around like a logging grapple might do.. if you ever tried to move brush around with the bucket even after you piled it you know what i'm talking about.. my brother has a fork setup on his valmet and it works great for lifting logs but brush is mostly small diameter .. i'm clearing a field of alders and small pine that my bushog can't handle.. this is a neat website and have gotton alot of info off it..thanks ....
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| Peters
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3034 Northern AL
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2002-12-29 46681
RG; " That's what we are here for. Remember we are all in this together. I am pulling for ya.
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| DavesTractor
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 148 Red Bluff, California
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2002-12-29 46685
We have orchards all around us and pushing brush is a big deal. There are several manufacturers in our area that make front mounted brush rakes. We recently built one ourselves that quick attaches to a Branson. I can send you a picture to your email if you would like. They are made for pushing and lifting already cut brush and prunings and work real well.
Email me if you want a picture of our design. ....
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| davegoodine
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 12 maine
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2002-12-29 46692
thanks dave, i will e-mail you, i'm interested in any ideas before i get too involved. up here in maine we got 4 months before we can get back onto our summer projects so i got plenty of time.. but my poor tractor is gonna have to stay out in the cold while i work on this in the gararge ....
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| Deere4410
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4 Minnesota
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2002-12-29 46701
I spent about 10 hours moving 5 years accumulation of brush to the burn pile over the past two days with the TC40D and a grapple attachment that I bought from my Newholland dealer. I believe it is a Worksaver brand. There is a picture of it in the Northern tool and Equipment catalog. It uses the standard skidsteer mounting system so it is a quicktach design. I had to install longer hoses to get to the back of my tractor. It works great but it is heavy (over 700 pounds). The brush was matted down and packed so tight that is was nearly impossible to pull lose by hand. The grapple made easy work out of would have been a back breaking and two month long job. I would not want to install it on a smaller tractor than my TC40D. I don't have a digital camera or I would include some pictures. ....
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| rdunstan
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 10 myLocation
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2003-01-02 46854
Another thought. I have 10 acres of filberts that I prune every year. Believe me when I say I have a lot of brush to move. I built a rake with 5-foot horizontal times at a a 1-foot spacing that attaches to the my JD 1070 bucket. This allows me to drive through the orchard picking up the prunings on the rake. I can then lift and dump the load on to the burn pile.
However, I've found an easier way if the surface is realatively flat. I simply set the bucket blade at right angles to the ground keeping it just above the ground as I drive through the orchard. The branches get scooped up and push very nicely. In fact, things work better when a bit of a load builds up. When I showed this technique to a neighbor with 40 acres of filberts he was amazed. It is by far faster than any other technique he had tried.
Again the trick is that the orchard floor is flat and I am pretty good at keeping the bucket edge just above the ground.
Just another thought. ....
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley
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2003-01-03 46861
Sounds like it works pretty well. A downside for some people might be that if something solid is hit at any appreciable ground speed with a bucket angled sharply down, then something is likely to break. That more of an issue for people who want to use a loader like a poor man's dozer.
As a complete flight of fancy, I wonder how a drag on a gin-pole would do at picking up brush? A drag could be a length of 8" x 8" timber wrapped with chain-link fencing. If chain from the timber ends to the gin-pole were the right length, the timber should float on the ground and the brush would be pushed ahead of the drag. When it builds up, it might be held on the drag by the chains to the gin-pole. The 3ph should be able to raise the drag enough to dump a load. Of course, the brush might just go over the top of the drag and then this would be just another cheap idea that doesn't work. It would leave the rows nicely groomed though.
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| DavesTractor
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 148 Red Bluff, California
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2003-01-03 46887
rdunstan's idea is similar to what is used in our area, except we make it fit right on the loader arms instead of the bucket. When you are cleaing prunings off of hundreds of acres of Walnut orchards, this is what is used. Scores of farmers clearing thousands of acres of prunings know what works, at least in this application. I have built a smaller one for CUT use. It is simple and works well. It is best on flat surfaces as previously stated. They aren't made for clearing undergrowth or similar tasks. ....
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| turbo870
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2003-01-10 47316
Hey look at www.loflinfabrication.com at their root grapples.
I built a 7ft. one for a 97 Jd870 and It works great. It opens about 5ft. wide.
Email me turbo870atyahoo.com for more info & pics.
Good Luck
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| turbo870
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2003-01-10 47317
Hey look at www.loflinfabrication.com at their root grapples.
I built a 7ft. one for a 97 Jd870 and It works great. It opens about 5ft. wide.
turbo870atyahoo.com for more info & pics.
Good Luck
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| davegoodine
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 12 maine
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2003-01-15 47569
i checked that web site out and that paticular loader looks alot like what i was after for an idea.A much simpiler looking design... i think maybe i'll attempt that idea but i'm thinking of using 1" square stock for the lower part of the grapplebucket... i'm alittle concerned with how much this is gonna weigh in at, i have a 1050 and i believe 800 lb's is the loader max for the 75 fel. does anyone think 1" square steel will hold up to any abuse welded up like that? thanks for the idea! ....
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