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 | Petrops
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 33 Massachusetts 
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2002-10-27 44256
I am lookng for a high 30 or mid 40 hp tractor with backhoe and have come across the JD 4610 with a 48 hoe which seems to offer much of what I am looking for (also considering the Kubota L4630 with 9' Woods or Kubota hoe). I understand that the JD hoe hookup for the 48 is a breeze but someone suggested that the integration of the hoe and mount to the tractor is not as rugged as one might find on a Woods or Kubota hoe. I don't anticipate beating the daylights out of this thing but want to be sure I have the right combo. Does anyone have any experience with putting the JD 4610 (or anything smaller JD) and the 48 hoe through its paces over time?
I also posted this on the John Deere forum so please pardon the duplication and thanks for the help.
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley 
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2002-10-27 44260
Somebody here probably will comment on matches of hoe to tractors. I'm going to play devil's advocate and ask why a 9' hoe?
I figure that as small a hoe as will get most of the work done is good for a tractor even if a manufacturer says a larger hoe is an OK match. A 9' hoe can produce a lot of leverage on the frame and I that's something that's good to avoid unless necessary.
My 6' hoe has done everything I've needed for my occasional projects. I do have to trench to 5' to get below the 4' frost level here. I have uncovered well heads a bit over 5' and trenched to 4' for electrical feeds. Uncovering septic tanks isn't as deep. Trailer anchors are about 5.5'. The main thing about a small hoe is that the tractor has to be moved more frequently for trenching and that the reach isn't enough to dig wide and deep. I've even helped out in cemeteries with the 6' hoe.
The only thing it hasn't done is a building demolition, which was done with a bit JD tracked hi-hoe and I'd rather contract out that type work anyway. If we carried through with our basement walk-in idea, I would have had to terrace the hole to get it deep and big enough, which would have been a pain but doable. Anyway, digging deep holes that have to be worked in requires shoring and I'd just as soon not tackle such things.
So, there's the argument for my little hoe. What you have to do may be different than my work, but I would keep in mind that sometimes contracting out the big jobs is cheaper. Smaller equipment stresses the tractor less, doesn't cost as much and has less transportation, storage and clearance problems. For most things a small hoe just takes more time. OOPS, I think I'm 'devil's advocating' again and I've already made my case.
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 | dsg
Join Date: Jun 1999 Posts: 528 Franklin, Maine 
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2002-10-27 44277
Petrops, I have a 48 hoe on my 4700 and have really used it hard and have never had a problem with the sub-frame. I have over 1100 hrs on my machine. mount and dis-mounting are far easier than any other machine I've seen. Once the 3pth is removed, it takes 2-mins. either way (from the tractor seat).
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