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 | BlueMule
Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4 Jamestown, NY 
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2009-01-11 159328
Hi everyone,
I have a quick question about my 2008 T2310. I was wondering if anyone had any problems with their radiator fan in cold weather? I store my tractor inside and just took it out to backblade my drive when I heard a noise sounding like ice chips (from the snow I was running over) hitting the underneath front part of the hood. I stopped what I was doing and looked under the hood to see my fan (plastic) was broken and shredded pieces went into the radiator causing small leaks.
The question is this: While I was certain nothing was inside the hood area to break the fan,and positive I didn't run over anything, does anyone know of the plastic fan breaking in cold tempatures? The temp was about 15% Farenheight.
There is no visible sign of anything under the hood coming lose, or any punctures through the radiator or grill. Your help or comments would be appreciated. I am just hoping this is covered under warranty...
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 | earthwrks
Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3853 Home Office in Flat Rock, Michigan 
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2009-01-12 159329
Anything's possible as far as the plastic not be formulated correctly.
Before going to the dealer for warranty though, I'd look real close for evidence of a small animal that may have been sleeping there and got caaught in the fan blades. If there' was an animal I wouldn't expect warranty coverage.
Case in point, my gravel hauler driver showed up one day with a load for me. As he's walking towrad me he spins around and wags a white, fluffy tail like it was his own. It was his cat's--until he started the truck. MEEEEOWWWWW! ....
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| BlueMule
Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4 Jamestown, NY
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2009-01-12 159334
Thanks for the reply EarthWrks! Yes, I did think of that and didn't see any sign of fur! I will keep you posted as to the investigation.
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 | candoarms
Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1932 North Dakota 
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2009-01-12 159337
Bljuemule,
Any chance you might have had a piece of ice, or chuck of snow built up inside the engine compartment?
If so, things like this are very difficult to troubleshoot, due to the fact that there's snow everywhere. Any evidence would blend in with the snow outside, making it nearly impossible to tell if this is actually what happened.
I check my engine oil before every use, even though my tractor doesn't use a drop. It's not so much the oil I'm concerned about. It's these other things that I'm really looking for, such as mouse nests in the air cleaner....or a litter of kittens.
Like all things in life, I've learned most of my lessons the hard way. After providing free advice to one of my four children, I always finish with this........ "Don't ask me how I know that. It's too embarrassing to talk about".
Joel ....
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 | AC5ZO
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 928 Rio Rancho, NM 87144 
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2009-01-12 159344
I have had my NH for about nine years and have never had a problem with the fan. (It was hard on batteries, before I converted it to an Optima, however.) I plow snow in the winter and it will easily get below 0F here. I also keep the tractor inside and the building is routinely heated to 50F.
Plastic is subject to internal stress when molded and cracks can develop from any damage such as a stone hit or even improper handling. These defects are likely to show up in the cold when the material is naturally more brittle. Polish out any nicks if you see them. You can relieve stress in plastic with a sort of annealing operation, but it often causes the molded plastic part to change shape and dimensions slightly as the stress is relieved. ....
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 | DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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In the interior portions of Alaska it gets cold enough to freeze and shatter commercial truck tires.
I am certain your plastic fan blade can freeze and shatter. It is only a question of temperature, the composition of the plastic and the induced stress. ....
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Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
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2009-01-12 159346
I suspect it was just coincidence that the plastic fan broke when it did.
We routinely start and run our equipment in temperatures down below zero, and often below -20° F. with no problems.
I would be looking more along the lines of an icicle that developed after the last run and that snapped the blades when the engine started.
Best of luck. ....
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| BlueMule
Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4 Jamestown, NY
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2009-01-14 159459
Hey all,
I want to thank you for the input...don't know what really caused this, but no signs of vermin, ice, or any other obstructions. Needless to say, I need to get it fixed, so called my New Holland Dealer and the service guy told me "they would take care of it" regardless of what might have caused it! WOW, I dodged a bullet there! I know I was looking at about a $500.00 bill for a new radiator and fan.
I also learned buying from a small-town rep like mine where we all know oneanother helps with warrany work...I know I am keeping my business with them! Thanks again and now I am looking forward to tinkering with my latest purchase--a 1955 Oliver Super 55 Diesel! It runs perfect and has brand new tires and batt...only cosmetics as far as I am concerned are what I am going to doodle with.
Have a swell New year and happy tractoring! ....
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| hardwood
Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3583 iowa
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2009-01-15 159471
BlueMule; Your post is a success story in why finding a good local dealer and sticking with them pays off. I realize that "By the book" they aren't supposed to discriminate, but in the real world taking a piece of equipment to a local dealer for warranty work that you saved a few bucks or dodged the state sales tax by going a couple states away to buy puts you on the "Slow list" for service.
The little Oliver you have makes me drool a bit. Back in the 70's I sort of inherited one just like it, not a scratch on it. The sad part is we were a bit on the hard up side at the time so I sold it. ....
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