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kleinchris
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2007-11-15          148320


Im going to try to load a picture here, but in case it doesnt work, this is where it is: http://www.parkersfarmmachinery.com/Quickstart/ImageLib/80_Dumper.jpg
What is this thing made for? What is it? Does anybody have one?


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candoarms
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2007-11-15          148321


Kleinchris,

I can't exactly tell from the angle of the picture, but it sure looks like the cable puller used by my local electrician.

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kleinchris
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2007-11-15          148322


I found that photo on an ag site. I'm thinking a manure scoop for tight barns. ....


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2007-11-15          148325


Mars rover? :) ....


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hardwood
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2007-11-16          148327


It looks similar to a sod roll unroller I saw being used for the big rolls of sod, like three ft. wide and three ft. in diamater when they unload them from the truck. Just a guess. Frank. ....


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earthwrks
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2007-11-16          148330


It's a self-loader dumper. They're very popular in Japan for rice patty operation (without the dumper of course), in undergound excavating like when shoring up a building.

They're becoming sort of popular here replacing the very small bobcats for demolition and the old standby--a wheel barrow. Some cement companies use them to tote concrete.

My buddy doesn't use these for building demotlion and asbestos removal, but he does use two or three small bobcats per floor to get the job done in a fraction of the time it takes with only hand labor. The bobcats are small enough to fit through a doorway, and light enough that they won't fall through the floor.

You can find these machines without the dump body, with a backhoe, tree spade, or even a flat bed to customize yourself. Some are made to ride on. Some of the bigger dump machines can hold 15,000 lb. ....


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kleinchris
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2007-11-16          148333


I think I could use one to help with trail buildig- I have about 6 miles to maintain and havent found the ideal way of doing it yet. However, it also looks pretty slow, and the Nascar #80 on the side doesnt really make it look any faster. It is a pretty cool looking little rig. ....


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Murf
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2007-11-16          148335


klienchris and EW get the prize this morning!!

It's a self-loading tracked dump buggy.

The scoop out front is a small FEL that lifts the product to be dealt with, in this case mostly aimed at mucking out barns, into the dump box then the whole affair crawls along to where you want it and dumps itself out for you.

Pretty spendy for what it is, and just try working a FEL you cant see (because it's in front of the box) but in some areas (mostly Asia & Europe) they're really popular.

Jonsered, the Swedish company that basically invented the modern chainsaw, used to make a nifty machine sort of like this they called the "Iron Horse" (translated from Swedish) but the neat twist on it was that you steered it (throttle too) by means of a fold down handle out the back, sort of like a pallet truck, and the box was part of a system, it could roll off, or dump, or be replaced by small log bunks. This meant a single person could go out in the woods, in Scandanavia usually in the winter on skiis, and walk or get pulled on skiis along behind it, load it with wood and go home.

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2007-11-16          148347


About 20-40 years ago in my area south and north of Detroit and even in downtown Detroit, the local municipalities had 5-8 yard dump trucks with self-loader 1-1/2 to 2-yd buckets on them. From time to time you'll see them for sale around here. ....


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2007-11-16          148348


Chris, for trail building you might want to consider a walk- or ride-behind rubber-tracked skid steer equipped with a dozer blade (a.k.a. "compact skid steer"). Ditch Witch makes a nice unit as does Vermeer and Toro to name a few. I've seen the Ditch Witch brand being used to clean up downed trees from hurricane Katrina and couldn't believe the power and traction it had. And you can generally use any of the 200-plus attachments available for any of the compacts. ....


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Murf
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2007-11-16          148349


I completely missed the trail building / maintaining comment, my apologies.

What sort of trails is it you are talking about?

In the course of my work, building and maintaining golf courses, we do a lot of trail building and maintaining. Any assistance I can offer is yours for the asking.

Best of luck. ....


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2007-11-16          148351


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kleinchris
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2007-11-16          148355


Unfortunatley, I already have the equipment I need for building trails- It was picked out for me in the form of my tractor collection. I have 6 miles of trails, which consist of crushed granite and portland mixed together and laid about 4 inches deep, 6- 10 feet wide. About 1/4 of the trails are below grade, which was a really cheap, fast and dumb way to build them- horrible from a maintenance stand point. We had some heavy rains here last spring and early summer (record setting- 16 inches in about a month) anyways, I estimate I lost about 50% of my crushed graninte. The granite was trucked in from 100 miles away, and then you throw in the portland- your talking about a very expensive trail base.

So, I have been replacing it with limestone crusher finds. Much cheaper, permiable, and easy to spread. About 1/8 the cost of the granite. I haul the stuff with my 5103, and then spead it with a Bobcat 175. Hauling is the hard part. What I really need is a Pro-Gator. ....


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Murf
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2007-11-19          148425


While I realize you said you had all the equipment you need, I see that you also said "Hauling is the hard part. What I really need is a Pro-Gator.".

With all due respect, based on what you're doing, and my experience, building over 100 gold courses to date, a Pro Gator is NOT what you need for hauling material for trail building.

A Gator will carry a maximum of a smidge under 2,000 pounds, and costs (up here anyways) $20,000+++.

On the other hand, I see from your profile that you have more than one tractor already.

On the other hand, a tandem axle hydraulic dump trailer with walking beam suspension that would carry many times that much in a single trip behind a tractor, and would give you the ability to raise the box slightly, open a central small door in the tail gate and just lay down a small stream of material for top dressing the trails on the fly.

These trailers start at about $3,000 for a smaller basic one.

Best of luck. ....


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hardwood
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2007-11-19          148426


Murf; Have I missed something along the way? What is a "Pro Gator". I have an XUV Gator, great machine and used almost daily, but I will agree they have their limits. they just aren't a dump truck. Frank. ....


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kleinchris
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2007-11-19          148427


If the option was available to me, which it isnt, I would get rid of my two HPX's and buy one Pro Gator and two of the mini Gators. I have priced the Pro at $16000, and the minis at $5300. I mainly need the minis for moving people around and I could use the Pro for moving material and people.

I have checked into a couple different dump trailers as well, and yes I could use one.

However, what I am considering building is a long trough type contraptoin with a grain auger running down the middle which would be powered by PTO. I could fill the thing with crusher finds and dump portland on top if needed. As the auger turns, it mixes in the portland an spills it out the back. ....


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Murf
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2007-11-19          148428


Frank, there is a bigger line they call the "turf vehicles" that includes the ProGator 2020A that are bigger, stronger more whatever than the HPX series. They're also a bunch more money.

klienchris, been there, done that, the t-shirt didn't fit.

It's one of those ideas that looks good on paper, not so good on the ground.

We've tried every option out there, and a few that weren't even on the radar, for hauling material in a situation like this we still use the dump trailers, nothing beats them for simplicity, durability, flexibility, adaptability and hauling capacity, period.

Best of luck. ....


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kleinchris
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2007-11-19          148429


How about mixing? I'm open to ideas. If you look at my profile you can see that I am blessed with equipment. So, using what I have, how would anybody mix 3 80 lb bags of portland into 1 cu yd of material?

Refering to you last post, simpler is absolutely best. Are you familar with Oggens Razor? I try to keep that in mind when I get too far into new projects.

How these trails were laid in the beginning was like this: Dump trucks, 4 RTV's with power dump beds, and about 15 guys who crossed the Rio Grand the previous week. I have the RTV in the form of the Gator, but I don't have the labor. ....


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2007-11-19          148430


We use a really small mortar batching plant on our jobs, but you can either improvise or just make a smaller version yourself.

The batching plant is really nothing more than a set of hoppers, each of which has an auger (much like a standard Ag. auger) that feeds whatever is in the hopper into a 'skip' bucket that has scales beneath it. You tell the auger how much weight you want in the skip, and what ratio you want it to be based on so many pounds from which hopper.

In your case I would just get a big mortar mixer and divide the quantities down to manageable quantities.

Limestone weighs 170 pounds per cubic foot, and a yard is 27 cubic feet, so a yard of limestone weighs 4590 pounds.

You want a ratio of 240 pounds of Portland to each 4,590 pounds of limestone, so you need 8.9 pounds of Portland for every cubic foot of limestone.

At that point it's not too hard to make a hopper (an old gravity bin cut down?) that has a cubic foot measure underneath it or a sized bucket on a FEL that can be struck (filled to a very precise quantity) and mixed in small one load batches.

Best of luck. ....


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