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2007-10-10          146782


Dennis, I see "Premium Members" are now called "TP Advocates". I know this is your site, and you can call us anything you want (but late for dinner as Kenny Thompson would say), but I'm not so sure calling us "TP Advocates" is, well...proper/correct/accurate?

If you look up Advocate on google it is really a very old legal or law term, which is in basest form means: "to speak for another". Are we really speaking for someone else?

Uh-oh. Me thinks me has a new title and it still starts and ends with an "A" and an "e" but the middle sounds like "soul" :)

But I'm jis' askin'




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2007-10-10          146784


EW,

I wanted to recognize those members who contribute so much to the operation of TP, be it words or financial contribution.

I struggled with a term for it "Fellowship"... Advocacy. I am open to other ideas.

The definition of Advocacy is :

Advocacy[1] is the act of arguing on behalf of a particular issue, idea or person.

Perhaps something more comical would be better like "TP Big Kahuna!" ;)

Let me know if you all have suggestions.


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2007-10-11          146788


Dennis the word "argue" to me doesn't fit--it's still a legal term mainly implying a courtroom situation. And the word carries a conontation of superiority or authority or expertness---and I don't think any of us would honestly say we're are an expert or an authority. Key word here is honestly.

Granted, some of us like(d) to argue for the sake of arguing hahaha. And some THINK (haha) they're experts (not really), but there are plenty of others to set the record straight, if need be.

I dunno---that said...at first blush the word that comes to mind is "Contributor". But I do have to say IMHO that having classes or levels of contributors or even members is probably not a good thing. Personally, I don't need recognition on any level or a title (exception: unless it involves a raise. tehehe)

I'm here for a cup of coffee around the pot belly stove and good conversation with some old buds---that I've never had the fortune to meet.

And let's say a person's level/title depended on the number of replies/postings they need to make to attain a certain level of membership/title---a threshold or quota. There may a tendency to willy-nilly make wholesale comments/replies that don't necessarily add value but count to their quota.

Again, I have no problem having no recognition on any level.

I'm curious as to what others have to say. ....


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2007-10-11          146789


I'm not real excited about advocate either, since it's occasionally necessary to argue AGAINST some of the questions/responses posted here. But if you want to illuminate members who've consistently offered credible input, perhaps something along the lines of "specialist" or "professional" or "reliable" or "proven"?

I offer this, because not all of us are technically (or intellectually) capable of knowing every answer to every question. If I don't know the subject matter of an ongoing discussion, I seldom waste server space with rampant speculation. But if I've had hands-on experience with the issue at hand, I try to contribute any special knowledge I have relative to that specific topic.

That said though, when my eyeballs see "TP" - my brain cells think "toilet paper".

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2007-10-11          146791


How about "Tractorpoint Veteran", just means you have been around and made a contribution of some sort, does not mean an expert. ....


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2007-10-11          146792


Or "Tractorpoint Contributor" ? ....


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2007-10-11          146798


IMHO whenever you apply a name or title, it begs the question: at what point did/do you earn that? How about someone new--do they have to join/register/sign-up/become a member to post a message? If not then we're all "contributors" in some sense.

TP Veteran. Hmmm. How/when does one become one? Using Greg's ideation criteria of "TP", I've been one for quite some time--especially around the holidays! Yummm!

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2007-10-11          146799


Other forums I participate in use sort of comical title but more as a distinction for how long or how much contribution you have made.

We did at one time use the tractors as such a thing, but now it seems all but last weeks newest additions have 5 tractors so that doesn't seem to do much.

More thought and coffee required, maybe even start a fire too, it's only 39° up here this morning!

Best of luck. ....


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2007-10-11          146808


39? Thats a heat wave. It was 29 here last night. That assumes you north-of-the-border types are still using the Fahrenheit scale.......

Actually I just wanted to post something to see what my new title is...............

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2007-10-11          146813


Well, considering us 'north-of-the-border types' are probably at about the same latitude (roughly 44°) and an altitude of just 750' above sea level I don't see how that's anything unusual.......

BTW, Canada has been officially metric for the last 30 years. Just wait, the time is coming for you guys too, on July 25, 1991, President Bush issued Executive Order 12770 "Metric Usage in Federal Government Programs" mandating the transition to metric measurement for all federal agencies.

Once you get the hang of it, it's waaaay easy than Imperial units. The trick is to NOT try to convert, just switch!

Water freezes at 0° and boils at 100°, and instead of a yard it's a meter, and it contains 10 decimeters, which in turn is made up of 10 centimeters, which in turn is made up of 10 millimeters and so on.....

It sure is easy to figure things in your head when it's all based on simple multiplication or division by 10.....

Best of luck. ....


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2007-10-11          146822


Murf you and I are about the same age...back when we were in 9th grade or Grade 9 eh? there was supposedly the same nonsense about "everybody going metric".

Ain't gonna happen.

Look at the automotive world for example: they tried it a little with much resistance from every side. Essentially gov. gave up. You can buy most anything these days and it has both standard and metric fasteners on it.

But I'm jis' sayin' as a veteran TP advocate contributing member with tractor icons. ....


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2007-10-12          146840


Murf,

I live in the U.S., but I also live much further north than do most Canadians -- at 48 degrees, 29+ minutes North Latitude. (Not sure how to convert that to Metric....hehehe.)

Winnipeg is further north, but not by much. There just aren't too many people who live north of Winnipeg.

My U.S. friends tell me, "You live so far north that there are only three directions from your house."

That's not true, of course, but it is getting much more difficult for me to get back into the U.S. once I leave for Canada. For all practical purposes, I can't go much further north from here, unless I travel to my birthplace, which is located at 48 degrees 45+ minutes North Latitude......or just 10 miles from the line........er....I mean, just 16 KILOMETERS.

The people of the U.S. and Canada do have one thing in common though....... 40 degrees BELOW ZERO. No need to convert that. We all know what cold is. hehehe.

Have a great day, my southern friend.

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2007-10-12          146841


The only people I can think of that metric system was great for is the tool manufacturers. Now I have twice as many tools and twice as many tool boxes to get absolutely no more work done than I could do before the, (I can't think of an adjitive decent enough to use in public) metric BS came along. Frank. ....


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2007-10-12          146859


If you are standing at the North Pole and decide to go home, the only direction you can travel is South. ....


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2007-10-12          146876


Rankin, so at what point can one attain and E or W direction if their only option is S at the top?

And was that magnetic or polar North? If magnetic, pretty sure your statement doesn't apply. I don't know for sure though. Edjumacate me. ....


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2007-10-12          146880


If you're standing on the North Pole you can still go north by jumping straight up. ....


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2007-10-12          146891


You try to be mysterious and potificatious and some clown always comes along to burst the bubble........:-(

OK I'll give it a try. I suppose if you took two steps south and turned left you could travel East for about 18 feet and come back to where you started from.

Same thing if you turned right or West, but you would make Horace Greeley happy. ....


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2007-10-14          146937


If, after you go two steps south, you then back up 4 steps then east becomes west and west becomes east.

This situation is similar to buoys in waterways, where red becomes green and green becomes red if you go up a canal system then reach the highest point and then continue down the other end. ....


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2007-10-14          146938


Rankin: (honk!) what do you mean (honk!) clown (honk, honk!)?

I wuz jis' askin' ---geeeeez

Okay, time for a group hug? ....


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2007-10-14          146947


OK, But only if you are using your deoderant today. I'm a senitve kind of guy. ....


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