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Jeff N
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2000-02-25          13164


Hello farmer freinds. After reading some of the post at this site it seems to me that the 4 wheel drive tractors are the only whay to go. That's to bad for me I do not have this option on my JD770. I would like to try to use this tractor to move some dirt and break up the ground for a small garden. Will a rear blade for moving the dirt and maybe a single plow for busting up the ground work with 2wd? Most of my time on the tractor is for mowing the lawn but if I can do this I would be even happier. The weight on the 770 is about 2000LBS. Thank you for any info on this subject. Jeff N



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2000-02-25          13167


Sure you can do that. 4WD provides nore traction, but that does not mean that 2WD tractors are useless. You can use the rear blade and different ploughs with your 2WD tractor. 4WD is just better than 2WD but there are far more 2WD tractors, I dont know for sure but the ratio of 2WD to 4WD tractors might be 9:1. That is 90% of real world tractors are 2WD. In my opinion that should have been oppsite of that but 4WD tractors are more expensive. The next tractor I shall purchase shall be Massey Ferguson 375 2WD instead of 4WD because MF 375 2WD costs a lot less than MF 375 4WD which is Rs. 800,000 as compared to MF 375 2WD which costs Rs. 500,000, all prices ares approx. Also their URL doesn't work these days, http://www.millat.com pionts to somethings other than tractors.
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David Paul
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2000-02-26          13169


Your 2wd tractor will work fine for what you want to do. You might want to add cast iron or liquid ballast to your rear tires to gain additional traction. While 4wd tractors are very useful, and in certain applictions are more effective they are by no means to only thing that will work. Like many other things in America there is a perception that if 2wd is good 4wd is better. You can see this in the SUV and pickup truck market today. Most 4wd vehicles sold are never used in 4wd. 4wd tractors are much the same way many are never used 4wd, and the owner could have saved money buying a 2wd tractor. ....


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2000-02-26          13172


Nuc, there is some info on MF at www.masseyferguson.com. It covers both North America and world wide. Information on specific tractor models is skimpy, but there is a "request literature" section. ....


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Bird Senter
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2000-02-26          13173


I agree with the other guys; there's nothing wrong with using a 2WD tractor for most work. A lot depends on the size of the tractor as compared to the job you're doing. When I had a 17 hp tractor, the vast majority of my work was done in 4WD, but now that I have a 27 hp tractor, I seldom use the 4WD. A "real" farmer neighbor has 3 tractors in the 150 hp range that are all 2WD, but he frequently uses dual rear tires to get enough tractor to pull big plows. He says in the future he'll only buy 4WD because you can get 20% to 25% more pulling power with 4WD with the same horsepower. So if the job doesn't require too much power or traction, and you don't have any holes for a wheel to get in and loose traction, or slick or muddy spots, etc. 2WD is just as good. ....


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Jim Youtz
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2000-02-26          13189


I don't know what HP a JD770 is, but I have the smallest of the current JD line-up (JD4100, 20HP). Some tasks I cannot do in 2wd, but are no problem in 4wd. I recently bought mine and tried plowing some hard dry ground with a 14" single bottom plow. I lost traction in 2wd, but kept on going in 4wd. One thing you could try to break ground if you lose traction (besides the obvious weights and chains) is to start out with a single ripper tooth to loosen the ground. These pull much easier than a plow, and then you should have no problem following up with your plow. ....


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MichaelSnyder
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2000-02-29          13259


Jeff,
Following what has already been said, I think you'll find most farm tractors are still 2wd. Naturally, the 4wd units are coming on strong as farmers slowly replace their old trusty 2wd units. If you get into the techno sales gargone, 4wd provides less tire slippage & more traction, which is supposed to yield less tire wear & fuel consumption..and bla bal bla... To be very honest my 4100 is in 2wd at least 90% of the time, and the remaining 10% could probably be overcome using chains and/or more weights, or simply approaching my tasks differently. If you ask a guy like Murf, who mows the sides of cliffs and such...4wd is most likely a necessity for him. Whether you decide to go 2wd or 4wd, weights are the biggest asset you can add if traction is an issue. But 4wd will allow a lighter tractor to pull like a much heavier 2wd unit. Thats my 2 cents. ....


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2000-02-29          13261


Ok, ok, we don't mow the sides of the cliffs, just the 'foot-hills', I think its Roger that does the cliffs up there in the Rockies...sorry Roger, besides Michael started it... Jeff, yes we require 4wd but for ONLY specific reasons, 1) we build golf courses, therefore we are often working on EXISTING golf courses where we must 'tread lightly', ie, 4wd for traction without weights, chains or lug tires, 2) we plow snow in the winter, and finally 3) we run the largest tires possible for floatation reasons so we need the extra traction 4wd offers. For the average user, 4wd is probably a hinderance more than a benefit. Our family also has a large working farm and yes, most of the units are still 2wd, they are far cheaper to buy, run, and maintain. Best of Luck. ....


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