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Oliver
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2005-12-15          121107


Here at the school I work at we have an L3130 with a Curtis plow on the front and a Fishcher sander on the back. It takes about 60 or so shovelfuls of sand to load the sander, and each time the shovel needs to be lifted about 4 feet. Does anyone have an easy, cost effective solution to loading the sander? We can't detach it from the tractor to load it as getting the sander back on the 3 point hitch would be quite difficult. And, we did not get the quick attach bucket so swapping the plow and the bucket is a very tedious job any way.

Any help would be most appreciated!




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Murf
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2005-12-15          121109


Oliver, this is a problem I have a little experience with, LOL. See my picture # 6 ......

We handle the problem one of two ways depending on the situation.

For road side loading we have an advantage, the sand or salt/sand blend is up in a small dump truck, and moveable chute like you would find on a cement mixer truck is the easy solution.

In fixed locations we use either a small conveyor, actually a cut down hay bale elevator, or a small bin on legs much like a grain bin or silo. You back the sander in under the chute, slide open a door and the sand just pours down into the sander.

Best of luck. ....


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Art White
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2005-12-15          121143


I like the higher storage unit with a gravity flow loading for simplicity. Just back in under and slide a door when needed and you might be able to get a loader for an hour or two to load when the dump truck drops it off! Other wise brooms are great! ....


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Oliver
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2005-12-16          121146


I like the idea of getting out of my office and working with the maintenence guy to make something to load the sander (just as I like to use the tractor instead of doing paperwork!). Any thoughts on what it should look like -- and what to make it out of? ....


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2005-12-16          121147


Oliver; If there are any feed mills or livestock supply firms in your aeria they may have just what you need. Sometimes smaller hopper bins are replaced with a bigger ones, etc. Usually you can buy pretty decent used ones for a fraction of new cost. Good luck. Frank. ....


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2005-12-16          121148


Oliver; something I forgot is that a cubic foot of sand will weigh lots more than a cubic foot of feed, so that would have to be factored into how much sand you could put in the bin. If you do find something in a hopper bin, check the tonnage it was built to support. Frank. ....


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2005-12-16          121153


Frank is right on the money about the weight issue, damp sand adds up the pounds FAST!

We built ours using a standard gravity bin as a design template, why try to re-invent the wheel. They are basically just an angle iron frame with steel skins, rectangular in shape, with a bottom that tapers in to a blunt, off-center point. The 'shorter' tapered side is the front, and contains the sliding door to load the sander. This should be one of the long sides of the rectangle.

You may wish to keep the bin a little wider and not as tall, for easier loading of it. The spout should be JUST high enough to load the sander with the 3PTH all the way down.

In two of the locations we have sand hoppers located we built a small ramp behind the hopper so that we can dump the material straight out of a truck and into the hopper. It is easier to make a smaller hopper and fill it more often.

Also, don't forget a lid of some form for the hopper, even if it's just an open frame that forms a pitched roof when you drape it with a tarp. Frozen sand does not like to run very well, even damp sand can ba real PITA sometimes.

Best of luck. ....


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