Go BottomWould like your suggestion tractor and implements for my needs Part1
 | commodore
Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 25 Sweden 
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2005-03-12 107845
Hello all over there, thankyou for all the information there is at tractorpoint!
I am closing up buying a tractor and have a favourite that I would like to compare to some other brands/models. Which the favourite is I keep as a secret a while, as I want no presets in your answers. Would you like to recommend what tractor and implements (brands) to choose in my case?
What is needed is:
- lawnmowing, an acre
- move snow, some 400 yards driveway, 50 yards walkway
- move snowpiles in both ends of the driveway, as the public snowmovers close it with sometimes up to three feet high piles as they clean the county way
- move dirt and garden things around, no more handcarriage!
- tow a small carriage at a maximum 1000 lbs on flat ground, lighter on slopes
- make an acre meadow level, dig up stumps and stones (”larger” stones can be digged down, no problem), to make it possible to mow with ”walk behind-scissors”, I dont know the english word for that machine…
- replace digging with spade (read that I like to play with a backhoe!)
- brushhog, also an acre, rather wet soil, dont know if it really carries the tractor and if tractor wheels get traction there
- some tilling
These are the tasks for the machine to help me doing the next few years. The place I live on is not really a farm, as it once was a part of. Today there is no more sheep here and the bushes are taking over more and more. So a bit of cleaning up what in the past was made naturally every day, must in some way be made after work nowadays.
In the future I would like a bit larger place. Not really to have a farm with animals, but some forestry. The heavier forestry will be made by craftsmen with knowledge and machinery, but some lighter forestry I will do myself. There are always a number of larger tractors since the 60´s for sale around here rather cheap, so if there is a little heavier needs it is not necessary to use the smaller tractor if it isnt designed for that.
Gardening is a bit interesting and digging a stream and a pond maybe, maintain the house and barn, what could be done with such machinery. Some 2-3 acres lawnmowing and maybe longer driveway to move off snow.
I live in Sweden, a country in Northern Europe. In my area, it normally falls some 3 inches when it snows. It would be great moving that amount of snow with plow and when it falls more, as it does a couple of times every winter, a snowblower would be an alternative, let it go that it takes some more time to clean up those times..
As a car and machine entousiast I would like a machine that manage all these tasks, even if for some it is more than enough and for some it is just a little too small. What is sizing it maximum is that it must be possible to drive in the garden and there is a maximum of 60 inch mowingdeck. Also the walkways must be possible to drive to clean up in the winter and the gate is 55 inch wide, must be possible to cross.
Here in Sweden and europe, there is absolutely not that machinery market as it seems to be in the US, so a 20 hp compact is rather unusual sold here to a private person. New Holland Boomer I have never seen, nor Kubota B-series or any MF in those sizes. Last year I saw a JD 4610 brush the streets as it was cleaning up friction sand in the spring. Some european brands are more common, but are more designed for community use. Smaller Kubotas are seen here and there, mostly around churches and such smaller commercial uses. As commercial grassmowing, there is almost never tractor style machines, almost always rear steer frontmowers, heavier JD:s have I seen. Very common are the commercial models of Husqvarna and Stiga midsteer diesels.
As a former industry machine machanic and nowadays automation engineer, I am not afraid maintain and repair my machinery myself. What is my plan, is to have quotes from a number of dealers in the US, travel there as a holiday, testdrive at the best deals, buy the machinery personally and send it home by sea container. The warranties and such must be some deal, I dont know how but it will solve I think.
Of course there is a limit what the machinery is allowed to cost, but I am interested in your suggestions as a start. There will be no commercial use with the machinery, but helping friends and neighbours sometimes of course. The lack of power and traction force, will be solved with lighter loads and a bit more time doing the job, as compensation for a bit cheaper machinery, but to a limit…
Look forward to see your points!
Erik, Sweden
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Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4297 Southwest MiddleTennessee 
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2005-03-12 107881
Doesn't sound like the selection of machinery available to us here in the States is available for you. Aside from a John Deere 4110 or 4115 have you considered a Deutz AgroKid? They are readily available in Europe and Deutz has always had a very good reputation. They come equipped with a mid pto and range from 30 to 50 hp. ....
Link: Deutz AgroKid
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Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 25 Sweden
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2005-04-29 110515
I lift this thread, as I would like a bit more information. I have several indications that I am out right in size in my favourite, as I have got answers pointing at the same size of tractor in the JD board.
Agrokid seems a bit big for my lawnmowing, but does of course do a better job on the heavier tasks. No hydro available, sinks the marks.
Erik, Sweden ....
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