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Glad they got the dirt bags. Trouble is there are soooo many of them out there.

STEALING UPDATE
Everything and Anything
Replies 7 Post by Harryg

Ditto, My son just got back from there this week after a 13 month tour, and you are right. Its a war zone. Rumor has it they paid ransom and never told US forces and were driving high speed thru road block. Duh!!! what do you think the guards will do when they get suicide bombers daily? Its standard operating procedure to fire if the vehicle won't stop.

USA Targeted Italian reporter
Everything and Anything
Replies 2 Post by Harryg

Definetly file a complaint. This shows a lack of professionalism. A "Street smart" cop is one thing but this man sounds/appears to have his priorities wrong (to put it mildly).

Tuff Cop
Everything and Anything
Replies 39 Post by Harryg

Saddam is a murderer there is no doubt. But there are those that will protect their own interests. Ask the Libs if it was worth the war. They will say no. Ted Kennedy and those bums are zeroes in my book.

Saddams Sinister Plans for the US and Europe
Everything and Anything
Replies 12 Post by Harryg

Thanks Castleton, I can't see the whole post with your e mail address as my premium membership expired.This site won't let you enter e mail addresses so I'll do it this way Harrygoodwrench at Hotmail.com . If you have any other info on the LB 1714 I would appreciate it. I might do the snowblower too but would rather go the FEL first.

LB 1714 Kioti
Kioti Tractors
Replies 4 Post by Harryg

Joe, I have about 80 hours so far. been a good unit so far. A little rough on finish but runs great. I have 8K in a 22HP 4WD with a Koyker FEL w/5' bucket and single lever/float. Done every type work I'll ever use for.
Haven't had to do any repairs but its a dang easy thing to work on. Like working on a 57 Chevy.

Looking for Model Recomendations
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 6 Post by Harryg

Tommy, thanks for the good news. I'll tell ya these engines run pretty clean to start with. I didn't think it would take much to pass the EPA. Been a diesel wrench close to thirty years (senior moment)well make that 30 at least and these are not dirty at all. What do you think they did? a little governor squeek? Cylinder chamber mod? Mine (Y380) runs purrs like kitten with all sorts of power. Y385 & 395 is just punched out a bit and don't think 4 cyl is much more different in the technology. Hey, it old tech but it works.

EPA Approved engine for Jinma
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 2 Post by Harryg

Yep, scam big time. They are mostly from Lagos, Nigerian but use various addresses. All you have to do is place a for sale item for say a tractor, etc and they start the e mail transaction. They want to send you more than its worth via a "agent" here that owes them money, then forward the remainder to them. Big scam and unfortunately people do get stung. Check this guys site out. He has a vendetta against the Nigerian scammers.

http://www.ebolamonkeyman.com/

tractor scammer
Website Operations Howto
Replies 10 Post by Harryg

John C,
I have to agree with Greg's post regarding the belly mower. I know people with various brands of tractors that have belly mowers and have not heard too much good things. First they reduce ground clearance and are a real pain to remove/install if you want to go over rough terrain. Sure you get a tighter cutting swath but these are big tractors and will still have to mow with a L & G type or push unit to cut where you couldn't reach. Basically a L&G type unit is used only for grass cutting and on even ground, A tractor this size has a various range of uses and if you have a belly mower on it you have defeated its possibilities unless you remve mower. Each has its own purposes. I would a pull behind, easier to hook/unhook, easier to maintain, and makes flexibility easier.
Now for the snow plow,,,,,,,,There might be some out there but not to my knowledge.
I own a 224 Jinma(same China tractor as Nortrac) and was in process of building my own FEL. Well, winter was on its way last year so I temporarally hooked up a 6 1/2' Fisher plow up to the FEL frames. Worked great but still wanted a FEL. Price of steel went thru roof and was cheaper to just buy a FEL and scrap my plans to build my own. I use a back blade also for snow removal so with the FEL I can push snow and move it without getting off tractor. I am going to weld 2 bracket into FEL bucket so I can mount my snow plow and can push in both directions, if I want to move the snow I'll just pull 2 pins and use the bucket. I live in upstate NY and we do get hit with lots of snow so I have to be able to move to quick sometimes as we get hit with storms right after another.
In summary, and in my opine only,,,,,,,get a pull behind mower and get a FEL this way you have flexibility, there are always uses for a FEL year round.
Regards, Harry

Attachments for Nortrac
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 4 Post by Harryg

Thought I'd add too. Both Chip and Tommy have countlessly helped others with their problems. Although I have never personally dealt with them I hold them both in HIGH ESTEEM. Its good dealers willing to help that "make or break" a product. My hats off to both of them. No thanks necessary, you guys earned the compliment.
Regards, Harry G

Another Agracat question
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 12 Post by Harryg

I have to concur with Chip. I also have chapagne tastes but a beer wallet. I searched all over my state for something I could afford and no one had anything in my range. Kubota was my dream but alas no way I could justify the price. I researched the "China" brands. Tried a couple of Jinmas out from people that purchased them. seems to me people that purchase China tractors are a lot like me and helped me a lot with all the negatives as well as the good points. nonetheless I bought a 224 Jinma crate unit from Coastal and could not be happier. My expectations have been surpassed. Yes, I am a mechanic by trade and don't mind a tweek now and then but for the money I feel I am way ahead. Just my opine and my mind is made up.

JAPANESE or CHINESE
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 53 Post by Harryg

Patrick, I am sorry for all your problems but going on and on is not going to settle anything unless you have a vendetta on your adgenda. You have obviously had problems but you insist that your dealer is not responsible. Parking in front of an innocent dealer with a "lemon" posted on your tractor does nothing but hurt an innocent business, Oh yes I do know about this. I had a dis-satisfied owner park in front of my place of employment with a BIG LEMON sign on his truck. We didn't sell it to him, he bought it up by the Canadian border for a few hunderd less but no support. All he accompliched was hurting a few salespersons commissions due to loss of sales, this in turn hurts the service dept prep personell. We went on as our reputation was good but nontheless it was a irritant that we did not deserve or have any part of. After all was said/done he didn't get a buy-back and asked if we would work on his truck. Of course we were wary but did so anyways. End result he admitted he should have first bought from reputable dealer in first place. But he did cost some of the sales/prep people money due to lost sales due to no fault of theirs. Think before you decide to park in front of some place of business, the people you hurt are those on the bottom.

some info on lenar tractors
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 96 Post by Harryg

RonNYS,
I can't say for sure how long they (Dong Feng and Kama) have been around but it has been a while. At least 8 years to my knowledge. Both are solid China tractor companies and their market share goes up every year. I own one of the other China tractors(Jinma) and heve no problem with support and or parts availability. Jinma goes from the 18 up to the 35 HP range and Dong Feng and Kama are in the larger hp ranges. Each has its niche in the market. I don't see either/any of them going anywhere except increased market share. 2 dealers I would recommend are Glenn from Coastal tractor and Chip Uren from Artrac. Each deals with several China brands. I personally purchased from Glenn and others I know have purchased from Chip. All were satisfied. I've included both links below.
Regards, Harry G in upstate NY where spring still won't come.
http://www.tractorloft.com/default.htm

http://www.artrac.com/

DongFeng DF-Bulldog 38hp vs Kama 35hp
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 11 Post by Harryg

Try Charlie at Rhino. If he can't help you he will refer you to someone that can. Charlie is a true professional, quite rare these days. Regards, Harry G

http://www.rhinotractorparts.com/

Task Master Tractor Oil Filters
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 10 Post by Harryg

A Agracat is a rebadged Jinma to my knowledge. Any Jinma dealer/parts place or the other 10 or 12 of the rebadged names Jinma goes by could get you your part.
check out,
http://nortrac.proboards26.com/index.cgi

http://www.rhinotractorparts.com/

http://www.artrac.com/

AgraCat Tractor Parts
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 5 Post by Harryg

I have one of those cannister type heaters(that a friend gave me) on mine and it works better than I expected. I plan to add a oil pan heater to warm the oil for severe cold temps that we get in upstate NY. I feel its the best of both worlds to have a warm block and oil together. You might say that doing so uses too much electricity but the last thing I need is to be jump starting my machinery in sub zero temps when I need it the most. It also saves wear and tear on engine, starter. If you have a heated area to store it then its a no brainer but when you don't you have to deal with it. I do feel that the block plug design heater would be more efficient. Just my opine, Harry G

Jinma block heater
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 8 Post by Harryg

Its amazing as how many names the Jinma name for one goes by. I know of at least 8 that are sold in this country alone.and that doesn't include the other China brands. They might not be pretty and sophisicated as many, but they sure do have plenty of power and can take abuse which I've done without mercy. Kinda reminds me of the "timex" ad.

Free Chinese Tractor Boards
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 12 Post by Harryg

There are dozens of outfits and dealers that can supply all your China tractor parts needs. China Importers, Jinma parts,Northern,, and many dealers stateside. Some dealers off the top of my head are , Bolton power equipment, Tommys affordable tractor, Puma machinery, Tractorloft/Coastal tractor, just too many to remember and I know I'm forgetting some good ones too(its old age I blame). may want to ask on ctoa for others. We are tractor owners there to help each other just as I am here trying to help. I own other tractor makes and always try to help and appreciate the help I get at this site.After all isn't that it is all about.

NorTrac Tractor Quality Review
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 58 Post by Harryg

Lumber, Some loaders are engineered with a rear support, some are not. To add extra support is only added insurance that some have done. Any machine that is operated within its designed limits should have no problems. As a retired engineer friend of mine gives his defination of abuse. "Abuse=operating something outside its designed/intended parameters."
I know several people that have the ZL20 loader and some with the Koyker and have heard of NO structural failures of any kind on any of them whether they had a rear axle support or not. The nay sayers can distort all they want but fact is fact.

New Chinese Tractors Board
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 62 Post by Harryg

Correct, the Jinma is re-badged by several names. Nortrac, Agracat, Farmpro, Emerybuilt, agboss I think too, and a few I can't recall.

Agracat Tractor
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 40 Post by Harryg