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 | duker99
Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 29 Ohio 
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2004-02-26 77950
I have a lifting "opportunity" that will extend over some period of time. I have seen (on this board?) some fork tines that clamp/bolt onto the FEL bucket.
Has anyone seen these? are they readily available or are they only custom made?
I need them for a BX2230.
Thanks!
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 | grinder
Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 677 central Maine 
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2004-02-26 77951
Here is one co. I think if you look around you will find
sevaral.Did you try Kubota's home page?
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| duker99
Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 29 Ohio
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2004-02-26 77953
Thanks! It would seem that the type that hook on the top of the bucket and rest on the bottom would be the strongest. Ever seen any of these?
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 | DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada 
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2004-02-26 77957
I had a BX and the Rankin forks.
They work fine with the BX bucket as designed, in fact they attached more securely to the BX than to my Deere 4100.
Be aware that your already limited lift capacity in this model will be compromised even more. The forks weigh 90 pounds and will push your weight/balance envelope way forward.
You will still be able to pick up loads that weigh up to 300 pounds, at least in the lower half of your lift range.
You will need about 800 pounds of rear ballast to do it safely and maximum inflation pressure on all tires. ....
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 | AC5ZO
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 928 Rio Rancho, NM 87144 
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2004-02-26 77966
Also on a FEL the lift capacity goes down and the ballast requirements go up as the load is moved forward. You get maximum lift right at the pivot points for the loader bucket and that is where most manufacturers specific the FEL capacity. As Mark said, you have to subtract bucket and fork weight. But if the load is very far forward, the capacity is even less. ....
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 | Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
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2004-02-26 77980
I agree completely with the comments about reduced capacity with bucket-mounted forks.
The other point I would make is that with fork set INSTEAD of the bucket there is a marked increase in visibilty. The bucket really blocks your view of the load and for delicate or precise placement it almost always requires a second person to spot for the operator.
We have this problem with the fold-away forks on our big TLB's. With the forks behind the bucket you have a huge blindspot.
I don't know if the same setup is available for the BX-series but the quick-tatch setup for my L-series is fantastic. It goes on the loader arms and uses the original bucket with absolutely no modifications required. I put it on using hand tools only in about 3 minutes. It is also VERY easy to make alternate plates for since it only needs 4 pins to connect it to anything else. I made up a combination base-plate which acepts a trailer hitch, forks and a snowplow. Next is an adaptor to mount 3pth implements in place of the bucket.
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| AC5ZO
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 928 Rio Rancho, NM 87144
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2004-02-26 77982
I also like the quick attach option and I actually have that on my FEL. I use a pair of heavy duty forks for a skid steer loader. The visibility is good and they are also a good bit narrower than my 72" bucket. With these forks, the loads can be pushed right back against the rear to maximize capacity. ....
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| duker99
Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 29 Ohio
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2004-02-26 77989
You guys are great, you saved me time and money - not to mention the stress on "ole Orange."
DRankin really wasted the idea with the load limitation - wow, but it sure makes sense. Thanks!
Okay then, where can a fella find those 3pt type fork lifts?
Lemme try that approach.
Thanks again.
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| AC5ZO
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 928 Rio Rancho, NM 87144
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2004-02-26 77990
Rankin makes them too. ....
Link: Rankin Forks
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| DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2004-02-27 78080
Rankin (no relation) also lists a set of carry-all forks that fit the BX series nicely. They will carry 1000 pounds and retail usually for less than $150. I have two sets of these and can recommend them.
I can point you to a link if you are interested. ....
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| Charlie_in_TX
Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12 Cypress
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2004-02-27 78108
duke, I have a set of the forks on my JD750 at work. The forks are connected with a piece of pipe but they slide on the pipe for width adjustment. The pipe hooks on 2 welded on hooks on the top of the bucketand rests on the bucket edge.
The loader normally has a capacity of 750# give or take. With the forks on it has a hard time with a barrel of alcahol that weights about 400#. ....
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 | AV8R
Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 882 North Central Wisconsin
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2004-02-28 78220
I too am interested in light duty fork-lifting with my 2230. Does "Big K" make a "quick-tach" mount for our little loaders, or only the big ones (Art?) ? Not real crazy about the idea of putting forks on the bucket. ....
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley
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2004-02-29 78240
I have a 3ph forklift myself--an after-market make my dealer came up with (WIFCO I think). It is actually a CAT II implement and a lighter one would be better for the tractor. It still out lifts anything I could put on a loader. My vertical lift is 5.5' not including 3ph height and I can get pallets on and off most flatbed delivery trucks. Loader forks may not go high enough so I could get the forks under pallets on trucks without bashing the rad into the truck. Got to be real careful with heavy loads up that high though.
My forklift was pricey but if material handling (especially stacked pallets) is a requirement, there are advantages. The advantages of true vertical lift, carriage tilt, a swinging carriage, 3-piece forks and the maneuverability of back-wheel steering are good to consider. Having a backrest and steel frame always between the load and you and the tractor also is good. I don't have carriage shift but I've gotten pretty good at backing up. ....
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 | itsgottobegreen
Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 329 Mt. Airy, MD
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2004-03-01 78341
I also need a set, but i have an even better idea. Go find yourself a set of used forks and carrage off a fork lift. Look for a forklift dealer. They will have used section or bone yard you can get one from. Then make a set of brackets that fit onto your loader arms and tilt cyclinder. Then weld it up and you got yourself a forklift. I am looking for a used forks to do this.
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| Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
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2004-03-01 78346
The used forks are a good idea, but for the average CUT, and especially a sub-CUT, there could be a problem.
Even a small forklift would be capable of lifting 2 tons. that means the forks are too, that means the forks are built between twice and eight times heavier than they need to be. The more the forks and frame weigh, the less 'payload' the whole setup will have.
I made up such a set a few years ago for someone, the base plate and forks together came to a little over 500 pounds. If you consider that the unit only had a 1,500 pound FEL on it ther goes 1/3 of your total lift capacity. If you consider that a sub-CUT probably only has about 500 pounds of lift on the FEL then you need to be REALLY careful about keeping the weight down.
Properly gusseted, 3" or 4" 'C' channel would be fine for that sort of weight.
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 | plots1
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 563 mo
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2004-03-02 78492
northern tool sells forks in differnt lengths and load limits. ....
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 | Art White
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6898 Waterville New York
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2004-03-02 78527
We sell a lot of forks that just attach to the bucket and for the most part seem to be helping most everyone with them. Sometimes the costs do workout that makes it so to have a normal type from a skid steer but not normally. ....
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 | jeff r
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 428 burton. michigan
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2004-03-02 78555
Guys,
I kept my eyes and ears open and visited a couple of salvage and scrap yards in the area and found a set of used forks that were off a a small electric forklift that were 40inches long. He charged me 40.00 bucks for both. Used my trusty welder and chop saw and fabricated quick attach hook-up from a 1 1/8 bar run through the bucket's tow hooks. Works Great sets up in 30 seconds. Never weighed it but I am sure it is less than 100. Don't have a use for a 3 point set of forks since I always got the backhoe or 3 point blade on the back of tractor. ....
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 | shortmagnum
Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 848 Wisconsin
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2004-03-03 78584
jeff r, $40 is about what I would like to pay for a set of used forks. They go for $150 here but I think these are rated for 3K-4K lbs. Just another item on the list for me.
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| Hal DeWitt
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 22 New Brunswick, Canada
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2004-03-03 78682
Hi guys: I use my B7500 for logging a lot and had problems getting the logs into a neat pile. I was using the FEL and the logs would slip off the bucket. I made a set of forks from an overload spring off a large truck. Cut the spring in half and welded the parts to a flat bar 1/4" thick by 4" wide and long enough to go across the inside lip of the bucket. Drilled holes and bolted it to the bucket. The setup gives me two forks about 12" long that I can slide under the log and roll back the bucket to lift it. Then goes onto the pile nice and neat. Total cost of the forks zip as it was all scrap I had laying around. Different forks for different jobs. ....
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 | blizzard
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 282 Central Maine
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2004-03-03 78703
Hal,
I think that's a great idea (Spring Forks). I know some short forks like you describe would be very helpful to me in maneuvering logs and stacking brush. Probably would help a lot in easing rocks into the bucket too.
This board is great...
bliz ....
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| jeff r
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 428 burton. michigan
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2004-03-05 78864
Shortmagnum,
Most the front end loaders of most if not ALL CUT tractors wont lift 3,000 to 4,000 pounds anyway. My Woods 1006 front end loader on a my B-2150 is around a 1000 pounds lifting capacity. ....
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| shortmagnum
Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 848 Wisconsin
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2004-03-05 78870
Jeff, you're right, mine won't lift 3000 lbs either. I was trying to imply that 3000 lbs is more in line with what skid steers can lift so these stronger forks are popular as salvage. Thus, they get a higher price for them.
My LA723 loader can lift 1870 lbs at the pivot pin. But breakout force is over 2600 lbs. Thus if I get under a pallet, it is possible to put more than 1800 lbs of force on the forks by applying the curl hydraulics (site below).
If they're not too heavy, there is nothing wrong with stronger forks. ....
Link: LA723 loader
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