Go Bottomfloat control on BX 24 FEL
 | Kuryloski3woods
Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2 central Pennsylvania 
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2006-06-05 130496
I recently bought a BX 24 with FEL and BH. This fulfills a lifelong dream of owning a piece of excavation equipment, even though it is a mini machine. When using the FEL, how do I use the joystick to "float" the bucket. No matter where I position the control, it seems to exert either up or down hyd. pressure. As I understand it, in float position the bucket should follow the contour of the ground.
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 | kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5764 NW Oregon 
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2006-06-05 130497
If it works the same as my JD you push it forward until it stops - then push it some more and it locks into a float position. You don't want to do this when the bucket is in the air since it drops in a hurry. ....
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 | DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2006-06-05 130501
That's how it works on 'Botas and Deeres.
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 | bvance
Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 280 The Great Pacific NorthWet, Olympia, WA
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2006-06-05 130507
I have a BX 2230 and I haven't really found a use for the float option. If you have the bucket angle such that it angles in to the dirt it will automatically continue to dig in just due to the physics of the situation, regardless of the float option.
If you have the angle of the bucket tipped back so it does not dig in, it is usually useless to accomplishing anything as the bucket just floats up over everything and does nothing. I suppose it might work if you raise the FEL up and tip the bucket all the way forward and use it as a scraper, the float function would probably work, but I never remember to use it in that fashion.
Unless I am missing something, that is my experience.
Good Luck! ....
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 | ncrunch32
Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 762 Kingston, NY 
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2006-06-06 130523
I have found the float option useful for removing snow/ice on a blacktop driveway. ....
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| kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5764 NW Oregon
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2006-06-06 130524
Putting the bucket in float and back-dragging can be useful to rough level out low mounds of dirt. ....
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| botamac
Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 71 MI
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2006-06-06 130527
When you push the joy stick forward to lower the bucket/blade, if you push the stick a little more the valve will lock in the detent postion. And if you find after while it becomes sticky or seems grinding, you can remove the lower cap at the bottom of the valve and regrease it, I had to rebuild mine do to the fact there is NO grease in the cap, the detent part is very easy lube or replace. The parts cost $30.00 and comes in a kit. And the float postion is real nice if you have the Kubota blade on the front. ....
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| Kuryloski3woods
Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2 central Pennsylvania
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2006-06-06 130536
Thanks to everyone who took the time to reply to my question. The detent is easy to find once you know what you're looking for. The otherwise thorough Kubot manual is not very clear on this point. It should explain that the control has to be pushed beyond the detent. ....
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| bvance
Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 280 The Great Pacific NorthWet, Olympia, WA
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2006-06-06 130561
KW,
I agree the float is useful with loose dirt and I use it occasionally for that purpose, but those of us that live in the Great NorthWet and the land of Clay, it's rarely that we have loose, dry dirt to work with!
It's a useful option for those rare times I can really use it.
Brian ....
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| kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5764 NW Oregon
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2006-06-06 130562
Brian, I live just west of Hillsboro so I know what you mean about the clay :) After a day of digging stumps backdragging is mandatory. But that only happens when the soil is mostly dry. ....
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| bvance
Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 280 The Great Pacific NorthWet, Olympia, WA
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2006-06-06 130566
KW,
I knew you did and would appreciate our delima. We live in a beautiful area, but there are prices we have to pay, aren't there? ....
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 | bloggins
Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 104 Kingston, Ontario
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2006-06-06 130568
ncrunch32, thanks for the reassurance that the float mode is good for snow covered driveways (paved), as that is exactly what I am planning on using the FEL for in winter. Now can I get away with weighted turf tires (and 4WD) on the winter asphalt surface or are AG (bar) tires a must? The turf tires are surprisingly grippy, I think they are made from a soft compound. I mean on packed snow or ice its the compound that makes the diference (remains pliable) not so much the tread. ....
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| bvance
Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 280 The Great Pacific NorthWet, Olympia, WA
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2006-06-06 130569
Bota,
What do you mean by "removing the lower cap at the bottom of the valve?" I also have an '04 2230 and I don't see what you mean. My float detent works fine, but I had probably better grease it. The bottom frame work is welded in so I don't think you mean that. I take off the rubber boot, but don't see any zerk in there.
Thanks for your help,
Brian ....
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| kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5764 NW Oregon
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2006-06-06 130571
Brian, yep here in the NW the air is always clean, the scenery is always green and there's always water in the well. As long as you've got a sunlamp what's not to like :) ....
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| ncrunch32
Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 762 Kingston, NY
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2006-06-07 130589
Bloggins, I would imagine that turf tires would be fine for typical blacktop driveway when using the loader. I have no experience with turf tires except on my gravely 4 wheel riding mower - which can push a fair amount of snow even without chains on my blacktop driveway. Of course how low you get the snow on your first pass will make a diference - the closer you get to the blacktop the better the traction. I assume your driveway is not several hundred feet long? If that is the case a plow may be a better option than the loader. ....
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| DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2006-06-07 130595
Ag tires are terrible on ice.
Turfs will run rings around them. ....
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| botamac
Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 71 MI
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2006-06-07 130598
Bvance
If you look under the black plastic cover in line with your hydraulic fittings at the bottom of you valve assembly, you will find two hexagon caps about 3 inches long. If you remove the one that is close to the tractor itself you will find the detent assemble there, inside the cap you will find four ball bearings that when you push the joy stick forward it locks into the ball bearings and if you look closely on the detent to see if it is worn (from the lack of grease) there is no grease fitting on the cap. Hope this helps
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| bvance
Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 280 The Great Pacific NorthWet, Olympia, WA
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2006-06-07 130623
Bota,
Thanks so much. I'll take a look at it.
Brian ....
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