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Bushman
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2003-07-02          58722

Folks, I'm new here, but I wanna throw this out to you. I have 6+ acres and mow all of it. Just planted 250+ trees, and I'm gonna get either the 2210 or 4110 in the next 2 weeks. I'm leaning toward the 4110, simply because it's a bigger framed tractor, but the manueverability of the 2210 is screaming for my attention. The price difference is really small, and I wanna make the right choice. Both have MMM's and FEL's. Advice is appreciated.

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DRankin
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2003-07-02          58723

Is the 4010 out of the running? ....

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Bushman
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2003-07-02          58724

No! And, I can't really explain why I didn't get a quote for the 4010. Think I better expand the choices? ....

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Chief
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2003-07-02          58726

If you plants 250 trees, that is going to be a LOT of trimming around them. If the primary use of the tractor is grass mowing , you may want to consider a zero turn radius 757 or a front mower such as a F-735. If you have other varied uses in mind then the 4110 or 4115 would be the way to go. The 4010 is a little low on hp but will work as well. ....

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jonwhit
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2003-07-02          58729

I just picked the 2210 over the 4115 today. The 2210 has those vibe absorb engine mounts that seem to make it better for mowing. The main thing that I will miss with not choosing the 4115 is the ground clearance and with that the post hole digger option. I couldn’t see enough difference unless the ehydro is as great as all that they say. ....

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Chief
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2003-07-02          58733

You have to go to the 4210 to get the ehydro. ....

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Art White
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2003-07-03          58755

Mark, this might be the fellow looking for your JD! ....

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jonwhit
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2003-07-03          58764

Sorry, you’re right about e hydro. ....

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DRankin
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2003-07-03          58765

I see no reason why your 2210 will not run a post hole digger. If you can run one on a BX you should be able to do the same with a 2210. ....

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2003-07-04          58813

I was under the impression that the 2210 would not run a post hole digger due to the limited catagory 1 3pth. ....

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DRankin
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2003-07-04          58840

I think the real translation is the 2210 will not run a PHD that John Deere SELLS.

I eyeballed a couple 2210's and their hitches look to be a couple inches longer than my BX.

My BX and my JD4100 will run the same Gearmore PHD.

Here is a clue: Deere still says the 4115 is the smallest tractor that will run a PHD. I just crawled all over a 4115 and it is nothing more than a 4100 with a stretched wheel base and a bigger engine. The rear end and three point assembly is exactly the same as the 4100/4110.

If you can find a PHD that fits on your 2210, and you should have no trouble doing that, I think the tractor will run it fine. ....

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2003-07-05          58881

I would like to make a comment on manuverability. The 2210 and the 4110 have very similar specs. The 2210 has a turn of 7.5 ft and the 4110 is 7.7 ft. If you need to turn sharper the 4110 has mud brakes and can turn in 6.7 ft albeit it will tear a lawn. Another point to consider is your terrain. The larger tires and higher clearance on the 4110 can handle rough going better. ....

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DRankin
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2003-07-05          58887

I completely concur. My back gets a little sore running my BX over softball size rocks and surface tree roots. ....

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Chief
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2003-07-05          58889

Mark, sure does sound like you are ready for a 4310 or 4410 to me? ;o) ....

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2003-07-05          58891

4115. With the biggest tires that can be crammed into the wheel wells. I ordered it last Thursday.

I love that little BX, but between my rough land and that old back injury, something has to change. ....

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2003-07-05          58899

Sounds like you already ordered but Ill agree with Chief,sounds like the 4310 would of been the one for you. that's just my opion. I'm sure you got what you wanted, best of luck. ....

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2003-07-05          58904

You guys are on track, but I just can't do all those bells and whistles.

My local warranty support is kind of questionable and I want to get the most reliable machine I can.

The B7800 was also in the running. The tractors are available but the loaders and backhoes are MIA.

The 4115 has the same wheelbase as the 4210 and only 2 pto horsepower less. They even have similar wheel sizes. The engine on both models are listed as 73 cubic inches.

This was not a hard choice to make as soon as I learned that Deere had a backhoe engineered for the 41's ....

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2003-07-05          58921

If you can use the 72" MMM the 4310 is a great CUT. But With a 60" MMM I prefer a smaller CUT like the 4110 or 4115. That way there is about 5" of deck sticking out on both sides making it easier to mow around obstacles. Also once you get the larger tractor you get larger attachments and the cost goes up fast, which could be overkill in some instances. ....

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Misenplace
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2003-07-05          58931

I think it was a sound choice and will serve you well. I personally dont subscribe to the bigger is always better stance. You can do that to infinity and the price just goes up and up. ....

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2003-07-06          58955

From reading some of Marks earlier post he seems to do more dirt work than mowing so concidering that the larger more powerful 4310 seemed like the ticket, but but as he stated he not a bells and whistels man.As far as a backhoe goes on any CUT, they are super expensive and they only seem good for light duty task. I guess you can do more if adding a lot of hours to a job is not a big deal.DOC you have a point there, price goes up and up and so does the completed work list.I guess I think that way beings I only get the weekends to complete my to do list.when you talk about ground breakin I don't there's such thing as to big.that's just my though's and if everybody agreed what kinda of world would that be? ....

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2003-07-06          58961

Plots, your assumption is correct, I don't use the tractor to mow at all.

So far, my BX has done everything I have asked it to do in terms of backhoe use, so I expect the new 4115 will do the same.

I have some really rough ground and I am constantly running over softball sized rocks and exposed roots. By the end of the day on the BX my back is sore from all the jostling.

The tractor handles it fine in that it doesn't get stuck or anything, but I have to go real slow and even then it is hard on my 50 something, previously injured back.

The other feature I am missing on the BX is a position control on the 3PH. I do a fair amount of grading and leveling and it is quite a bit more difficult without that feature.

The Deere 4100 handles the ground (and my back) much better due to its larger tires and does have a position control for the 3PH, but it does not have a hydrostatic transmission, which I have come to really appreciate.

So, the 4115 will combine the best features of both tractors and get me back to just one tractor payment. ....

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2003-07-06          58976

Plots, I hear ya. I would go bigger IF money was no object. I have a list a mile and a half long for my hunting property though so I have to keep it in check. I DO expect to trade up at some point to either a 4115 or a 4210 but definately no bigger. Not haveing the 3pth adjustments like on the 4010 series is a MAJOR pia when gradeing. In fact it is very easy to make a bigger mess than you started with. Heck If I had my druthers I would take a 4710, and a garage and a cottage and and and ! lol. ....

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