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bayoubengal
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2012-09-18          184945

Can I use B-12 Chemtool to try and start my AS 250? If so where do I spray it since it doesn't have a carburator?

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2012-09-19          184949

In the air cleaner. If you have life insurance. ....

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2012-09-19          184955

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In the air cleaner. If you have life insurance.



Got it!!! Can I try with WD-40 in the air cleaner or is that still dangerous? ....

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2012-09-20          184959

What ever you do make sure you do not use pre heaters if equipped.

WD 40 has oils in it that will help not dry out the cylinders.
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2012-09-20          184963

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What ever you do make sure you do not use pre heaters if equipped. WD 40 has oils in it that will help not dry out the cylinders.


Harvey, So are you saying don't use the glow plug if using B-12 chemtool but ok to use WD40 with the pre heater? ....

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2012-09-20          184965

Don't use that to start it.
You could toast you motor real easy.
if you do be careful to keep the rpms low
and fully choke it ...then zero the choke out
very slowly.
thx
Good luck
Mike
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2012-09-21          184975

(Diesels don't have chokes.)

Why don't you troubleshoot the starting problem, for instance, sufficiently fast spinning, fuel and air delivery, injectors, compression, valve adjustment. ....

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2012-09-21          184976

I second that motion. Unless your engine came with the factory with chemically-assisted starting, you should be spending your time trying to figure out WHY you find it necessary to use starting fluid. It's a bad idea to get an engine "hooked" on starting fluid.
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Otherwise healthy diesels only need two things to start, fuel and air. Make sure the fuel is clean and flowing properly, and that the engine is breathing properly. You could be looking at something as simple as dirt; dirty air filter, dirty injectors, dirty fuel, clogged fuel filter. And since we don't hand-crank diesels anymore, think electrical; weak or inoperative glow plugs, low voltage to otherwise good GPs, weak battery. And the list goes on.

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2012-09-21          184978

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I second that motion. Unless your engine came with the factory with chemically-assisted starting, you should be spending your time trying to figure out WHY you find it necessary to use starting fluid. It's a bad idea to get an engine "hooked" on starting fluid.basic Otherwise healthy diesels only need two things to start, fuel and air. Make sure the fuel is clean and flowing properly, and that the engine is breathing properly. You could be looking at something as simple as dirt; dirty air filter, dirty injectors, dirty fuel, clogged fuel filter. And since we don't hand-crank diesels anymore, think electrical; weak or inoperative glow plugs, low voltage to otherwise good GPs, weak battery. And the list goes on.//greg//
Thanks guys for the suggestions,
I've already changed the fuel filter, primed the fuel pump, new crankcase oil, checked for water in the fuel, cleaned the air filter, and charged the battery.
Not mechanically inclined so don't know how to check if the fuel is flowing properly, engine breathing properly, check if injectors are dirty and how to check if glow plug is good?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks, Vince









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2012-09-22          184987

Do not use pre heater or glow plugs with any type of starting fluids. ESPECIALLY Eather ....

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2012-09-23          184989

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don't know how to check if the fuel is flowing properly, engine breathing properly, check if injectors are dirty and how to check if glow plug is good?
Can't give you any Belarus specifics, but generic advice would be to start with the pre-heater. Is yours a flame type pre-heater (one per engine) or individual glow plugs (one per cylinder)?

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