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I've been researching the following tractors: L35, L3130, B21, B2910 and the B7800.<br>
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My main uses for the machine are material spreading, trenching, grading and some stump removal. The use is residential on 2 acres of land. The stumps I am removing and will have to remove in the future are fairly large pine stumps, ranging from 18" to 24". I have rented a JD4300 with a 48 backhoe in the past to pull a couple of stumps. I realized that I could not just get under them and rip, but had to methodically dig around and break the roots to loosen the stump. It took a bit of time but I was able to do the job.<br>
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If I wanted the top of the above choices for backhoe power, it appears that the L35 would be the machine of choice. However the price tag is way out of my league. The next sensible machine appears to be the L3130. The base price is a bit out of the ball park for me (quoted $29.5K), but I also question needing that size of machine, being that I will eventually use it for snow removal and ultimately mowing once my current mowing machine is retired. Next in line is the B7800. Looks like it has all the capability I need in a slightly smaller frame tractor. Price point is pretty much on the money ($23.9K with loader and backhoe). The B2910 appears to be very close to the B7800 with a few more creature comforts. I also considered the B21, but there is no option for a belly mower, so that one has been eliminated.<br>
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So, I want to hear from some experienced folks about the backhoe options for the B7800. If I'm correct, the choices are the BL4672 and the BL4690. Are there any crucial differences between the two besides the digging depth?<br>
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Now the most important question, is there any other tractor / backhoe choice that is worth considering?<br>

Tractor backhoe selection questions
Kubota Tractors
Replies 14 Post by domogala

With enough time and a little care, it's suprising what you can do with a CUT. Here's a picture of work in progress to prove it.<br>
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bliz

CUT as Excavator
Garden and Landscape
Replies 5 Post by blizzard

Kubota's B7800 is their bare bones 30hp unit, if you want to make a fair comparision between tractors with similar features, compare the Kubota B2910 to the New Holland TC29DA to the JD 4210. The B7800 compares to the NH TC30 or the JD 790 tractors for price & features (or lack of features).

Kubota B7800 vs JD 4210
John Deere Tractors
Replies 10 Post by melensdad

I use a 55 gallon oil drum that I picked up free from my local quick lube joint. They normally give them away since they have no deposit on them. Then I picked up a pump from http://www.northerntool.com It works great!

Diesel Filling Supply
Parts and Repair
Replies 18 Post by SmokinJo

Oh, and by the way. Next time before you have too many of those XX's and can still see the label. It is Dos Equis.

After A Couple of Dos Exxis
Just For Fun Off Topic
Replies 14 Post by BillBass

I would like to buy a new hydraulic drive motor for my Case 646 tractor. I think it is a TRW ROSS Torqmotor.<br>
Does anyone know where i can buy one?<br>
Thanks, Mike

Case 646 drive motor wanted
Case
Replies 4 Post by mikerote

Hook it up to my pony, now that would be a real DRAG....

Sorry, bad joke of the day.

I had thought of vertical clearance, but I would think the 3pth would accomplish that easier and reduce the tare weight as well. The hydraulics should only need a max. of about 6" but who knows, one of life's little mysteries.

Speaking of mysteries, why do they put turn signals on tractors but not brake lights ?

Best of luck.

3-point carry-all
Kubota Tractors
Replies 11 Post by Murf

You didn't say what type of lawnmower you have, but you can't compare that to a tractor with a belly mower. My tractor mid PTO is 2500 rpms so the blades are turning quite fast. If you are concerned about the little strips left by the lawnmower, wait until you see your lawn if you mow when the grass is still a little damp and mash it down with the big rear tires and then when the grass dries it stands back up.

King Kutter Finish Mower
Mowers Field and Finish
Replies 23 Post by kubotaguy

Love reading these forums. I am looking at a 1999 L35 with 60 hours on it and in almost new condition. Can anyone give a reasonable estimate of what it should be worth. Thanks in advance.

Need Recommendation on L35
Kubota Tractors
Replies 2 Post by robpre

This is what I do and it works pretty well for our heavy-clay type soil; I put a 2 bottom plow on my JD4700 and plow it first. Then I hit it 2-3 times with my KK 72 tiller, pick up rocks between passes. Important to do other wise they be buried from one pass to another. To pick up rocks in this situation a rock bucket is ideal. Works about as well as anything I've found. As for the weeds, I don't use chemicals. Given that most weeds are annuals you can break their reproductive cycle by tilling before they seed AT LEAST twice (I like 3-4 time)during the first season. Works pretty well. Note - you're better off not doing it at all then doing it once because that will make 'em grow like crazy.

What Do I Need To Break Up Soil
Operating and Attachments
Replies 11 Post by tk_csa

You might check the dimensions of the Jonny bucket tooth array; its made for the Jonny Bucket but may fit the BX FEL. Its only $150 + shipping.

BX23 Backhoe Bucket and FEL
Kubota Tractors
Replies 7 Post by PaulPrince

I live in Michigan and am looking at purchasing my very first tractor. I have read and visited numerous dealers to compare NH, JD, & Kubota. I decided on the NH since a dealer is right in town. I have found one by private dealer and am not sure if I'm going to get taken on the deal since you don't really know about tractors until you buy one. It's a 2001 TC33D Boomer with 364 hours on it. It has a front loader, live PTO, 4X4 super steer, hydrostatic trans, R4 tires, 3pt. hitch, blah blah blah. You know the rest. There are no other attachments so I would need to buy some. New or used it doesn't matter. I need it to maintain my 1/2 mile long driveway made out of limestone. I want to put up a pole barn, put a deck around my pool, cut swails for water run-off and continue a path around all of the acres (16) so the kids can ride their bikes in the woods. The guy has the tractor listed for $13,300. Is this a good deal? Any further info. on this tractor would be great. I've read most of what has already been said in these forums and am getting good insight. Thanks.

TC33D - 2001 - 364 hours
New Holland Tractors
Replies 5 Post by vkesler

mueltrain- Thanks, I have seen that said on this web site and it is great advise. I will keep in mind the tools I need for the jobs I have when becoming familuar with the "power" (tractors) available.

model sugestion
Kubota Tractors
Replies 17 Post by yardwork

In my opinion the largest and most expensive factor driving health care costs is the cost for treatments of personal irresponsibility and abuse. Ever stop and think about the true TOTAL costs of drunk driving/alcoholism, drug abuse, smoking, sexual transmitted disease (STD), criminal acts, obesity a.k.a. "Golden Arches Disease" ;o), irresponsible life styles and personal care, and pure stupidity, just to name a few. The list goes on out of sight. These all have costs associated with them and usually those causing this cost either refuse to or have no money to pay for the care. Consider all of these cost and you would be shocked. Yes the lawyers (more like "judicial whores" add to the cost but not nearly so much as completely preventable, irresponsible conduct. In my opinion, medical care coverage should NOT cover the above things. In most cases it was completely preventable.

The rest of it I think falls under life's unforscene occurances that none of us could foresee or prevent and just plain growing old. That is what health care is for. Kinda like automobile insurance? It is not for drunks, idiots who deliberately flout driving laws, or folks not in posession of one crumb of common sense that should not be driving.

Until common sense prevails; (and don't hold your breath waiting for it is this country) the costs will continue to spiral out of site.

I hate to sound like such a Bah! Humbug! but there is a limit to this country's resources and peoples wallet content.

Health Care vs Jobs
Just For Fun Off Topic
Replies 11 Post by Chief

Not sure what you mean by mid and rear hydraulics, and that could affect the price by a few $k. A good way to price JD machines is to go to their web site and use the build & price option to configure your machine. That will give you MSRP. A really good price would be 20% off MSRP, but typically it's more like 10%

New 4710 Price
John Deere Tractors
Replies 6 Post by kwschumm

I think such things are available and are called shovels. I can't recall hearing of them used on compact tractors and I'm not sure one would do the job if I understand the problem. There is quite a bit of discussion in the archives about ways to remove stumps.

Backward backhoe
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 2 Post by TomG

To answer your question properly, you need to know what lumber you will be using for the stringers and the joists, since the allowable fiber stresses varies widely for difference species of lumber. Even if you said pine, there are several different pines, and the allowable fiber stresses vary even with pines. The most common is Southern Pine, No. 2 grade. Your supplier will be able to tell you the type of lumber.

I would recommend a 200psf design load for the floor, checked for localized overstressing from concentrated equipment loads, which would give you the stiffness you need to not have "spongy" spots. This would need to be verified based on the governing building code in your area. Besides the sizing of the stringers and joists, foundation requirements and connections should be considered.

If you are able to give me a type and grade of lumber, I could recomend stringer, joist, and flooring sizing for you. All this would need to be approved by the local building department.

How to design floor in shop
Home Improvement
Replies 15 Post by beagle

Hello, you must think that I am being unfair to forign tractors. In reality, I am just posting the problems that I personally have encountered with this brand of tractor. I will state again, I feel I have adequate experience to speak the truth. I have had four of these in a period of less than a year. The dealer was excellent at trying to remidy the problem by bringing out his entire stock of new tractors. I feel that my farm was and still is the Lenar Tractor Proving Grounds. Every tractor has blown the main hydraulic hose, every tractor had some sort of electrical deficiency such as guages not reading right, the tail lights staying on and melting the reflective lense cover, and leaks of some sort. I do not need lights to set posts for a fence, so I over looked that defect. Leaks, well I am not parking it in my garage, so as long as it wasnt spewing out, and just a drip, and having to top off the fluids once a week, I could deal with that. Guages, well I know the fluids are good, I just topped them off, and the tractor did start, maybe with a jump, but it did start, I can still set posts, so that was over looked as well. Splitting in half, well that was a problem, I couldnt set posts, main hydraulic hose blowing, well, cant set posts with that problem either, not shifting to four wheel drive, well that can make a muddy field difficult to work in, but I could buy a wench and pull my self to the last post I set, or use the bucket to push myself backwards to where I need to go, but if I was really willing to do that, I could just go the next step and buy a good ash handled post hole digger. Ok, so I know I have problems and that this tractor could be costly to own because of repairs, so I bought a bumper to bumper warranty from Fail Safe for it. Well what good is a warranty if you can not find a dealer within 500 miles to work on it. That is a problem that cant be worked around either. I am able to work on the tractor myself, but if I was willing to do that, I would have bought an old ford 8N and refurbished it since finding parts for that tractor is relitivley easy, but I cant set posts or move manure if I am working on a tractor. Well I should say something good about this Lenar tractor, so I will. If I was to take a power washer and wash it really really good and pulled it to the middle of a field, from a distant, it would look like a really good tractor, you could see how the fiberglass shell is nice and shiny, and it is blue from the inside out, not just paint but the fiberglass is impregnated with blue pigment, you couldnt see the oil leaks or stains from the hoses or engine block, and it does say it is four wheel drive on it, with nice aggressive looking tires. For all intent and purposes, the Lenar Tractor really looks good.........Just dont start it. You can say you have a nice tractor, you can write it off on your taxes and it would make a farm look like a farm with it sitting in the field. For those uses, the Lenar tractor is an exceptional machine. Just make sure that the post hole digger, the shovel and the wheel barrel are hid, that way no one will know that you have a tractor that you cant use, or afraid to use, and that you got dupped into buying an over priced bird perch.

some info on lenar tractors
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 96 Post by hick11h1369

There are torque tables for hydraulic fittings. When new fittings are properly installed and tightened sealer usually isn't needed. Over tightening fittings makes them leak and then sealer is the only cure. If used, sealer should only cover the upper third of threads to avoid exposing it to the oil flow. It can break off and become an obstruction.

There are a bunch of installation rules for fittings as well as steel lines and hose to prevent premature failures. No time to summarize them this morning but maybe I'll get back to them.

Working on hydraulics
John Deere Tractors
Replies 10 Post by TomG

Dave
Anchor Tractor Greenville, PA 724-588-5751. Hope that helps.
Happy Tractoring
Chipperman

Branson vs Century
Other Tractor Brands
Replies 39 Post by chipperman