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 03-06-2003, 20:43 Post: 50667
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I've decided to buy a plasma cutter. The two major welding supply outlets in town sell Miller and Hypertherm. The Miller model 2050 was priced to me for 2,175.00 and the other store quoted me a Hypertherm powermax 1000 for 2,057.00. I'm just curious about anyones experience with either brand, and if the dealers have some wiggle room on their prices. I like to buy localy if possible instead of buying a picture of something on the net. I also checked Lincoln on their website, but they seemed pretty pricey for like size units. ny comments apreciated, thanks.






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 03-07-2003, 06:46 Post: 50687
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Hardwood,
Have you tried the Yesterday's Tractors tool talk forum? They have a few experienced welders that usually like to answer welding/equipment questions. Man, I'd love to have a plasma cutter; I've heard they were the berries.
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 03-07-2003, 07:32 Post: 50692
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Bill, thanks for the tip on the YT web, I checked it out for a few minutes this morning, looks like a ton of experience there I'll take more time later to study it. I too am facinated at what a neat job plasma cutters do without the slag and distortion from the regular cutting torches. Some guys have gone to LP because of the cost of acetylene, but the plasma sure looks neat to me. Thanks.






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 03-07-2003, 08:53 Post: 50701
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We have the Miller 2050. We use it almost everyday for something, even if only for a couple of minutes. I can't compare it to the Hypertherm as we only have experience with the Miller. We have had it about a year and have had no problems. It cuts 1/2" and below like a hot knife through butter. As you get up closer to 7/8" or so, you have to go slow. The drag tip is cool, but doesn't work well with the thicker metals. We use the regular tip most of the time.






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 03-09-2003, 17:43 Post: 50829
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I have owned another model of hypertherm and it worked fine. Miller makes fine equipment and I would trust it on brand name alone.

Personally, I have a Powcon plasma cutter, but Powcon is out of business, or at least has changed owners. Powcon was one of the first to use inverter welders and cutter like a lot of them do today.

I would say that either unit would work well for you. One thing about plasma cutters is that they do use some expensive tips and nozzles. You could easily make up the difference in the prices you were quoted if the cost of the disposable parts was significantly higher on one compared to the other. It is worth checking it out.






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 03-09-2003, 18:10 Post: 50832
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AC5ZO, thanks for the advice, the hypertherm dealer did tell me that their tips were less expensive than some other brands, and that was one of the reasons he favors them. The Miller dealer did'nt mention the cost of tips, but at that time I did'nt know anything about tips. I've pretty much made up my mind to go with the Hypertherm as the dealer has been there for years and years, I've bought Acetylene and Oxygen from them for a long time, sso I'm sure they will stand behind anything you buy there.






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 03-09-2003, 20:40 Post: 50850
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plasma cutters are great machines i have 4 at the moment. a few things to consider... what type of use will it see? ie. sheet metal, aluminum, or just general shop use. does it need to be portable? as in a 110 or 220 power. do i have clean dry air? they don't like water at all.a filter may be nessacry. is your shop heated? you can't leave them in the cold and expect them to work. they have thier uses but they have'nt replaced the torch completly.both brands you mentioned are very good just choose the right one for your application.






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 03-10-2003, 19:45 Post: 50918
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I have to add that Harbor Freight - I know, not a place I would expect to find one either - has a 30 amp and 40 amp plasma cutter that are excellent high quality units. They are made in Italy, as is my Matco mig welder and many other "American" brand welders. I have a 30 amp that I bought last year on special for under $700 (reg $859). The 40 amp cuts up to 1/2" and regularly sells for $1200. The PN for the 40 amp is 41952. I use mine to scrap antique parts cars. The only problem I have is working with a section that is heavily undercoated, it is sometimes hard to hold an arc. I use it heavily and never got to the point of overdoing the duty cycle. These might work for someone who doesn't want to spend $2000+ for a unit.
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 09-07-2003, 10:30 Post: 63321
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Around here most larger welding suppliers rent most anything you may need for fabrication--I would recommend renting each of the units your looking at for a month(around $150.00) then see which you like---then ask the supplier whats the pay-off for the one of your choice!! Most assign around 80% of rental income against the purchase value.
case in point, I contracted to re-plate the bottom of a large steel barge several years ago and rented the powersource, LN-25 feeder, and misc. other equip. The owner paid the rent while I did the job, and when done I "payed-off" the LN-25 for $400.00!!! I'm the only one to ever used this machine, I got payed to use it, and I now own it for about 20% of what I would have payed to buy it new!!! It was new in the box when I rented it!!!

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 09-15-2003, 19:37 Post: 63980
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we currently have a hypertherm 1000 the tips do last a little longer than our older miller we used to have which saves on operating cost but i found the hypertherm harder to use it can be aggrevating to start or keep the pilot arc burning.you must have a really clean grounding surface. the miller was much easier in that manner. the miller model we had is no longer made now and i have not used any other brands.






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