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 10-08-1999, 00:00 Post: 8627
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 Help needed in deciding what size and type of compact tractor to buy

I am completely new to the world of tractors and the joys of home ownership. I have a 3 acre yard that is a mixture of wooded lot and areas of grass. The whole lot is on a slope of varying gradient probably form 10 to 22 degrees. My main objectives for any machine would be to be able to mow in the summer and clear snow effectively from a 250 ft surfaced driveway. Over the next few years I intend to re-landscape the lot, clear some of the wooded areas, build a garage into the hillside and build some dry stone walls. I have about $10,000 to spend and could stretch to more if the arguments were good enough to convince my wife! I want to get a compact tractor that is not overkill but would be a good investment to assist in the yard projects. So I am open to advise. Is a compact tractor even the right way to go? I particularly would like to know how many hours is too many on a second hand compact and any recommended second hand dealers.






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 10-08-1999, 00:00 Post: 8635
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 Help needed in deciding what size and type of compact tractor to buy

Hi David; A compact tractor in the 20 diesel hp range is what you looking for. A John Deere 755, 855 or Kubota B2100 or B2400 would be best for used tractors and you could get those,tractor only,with 1000 hours or less for around 10,000 or less. I have a JD 755. If I had it to do all over again I would buy NEW and get a little larger than I thought I needed. You have 3 acres so you should'nt get much larger than the 20hp range. I have 37 acres and need something in the mid 30's hp range. A top of the line compact tractor with a diesel engine with good maintanence can go for thousands and thousands of hours. If I can help just e-mail me.David






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 10-08-1999, 00:00 Post: 8637
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 Help needed in deciding what size and type of compact tractor to buy

David, I've been trying to decide whether to try to answer you or not because so much depends simply on personal preference. I have 10 acres and used a Kubota B7100 with front end loader, box blade, tiller, and brush hog for 4 years. Kubota now has the B7300 instead of a 7100 and that would probably do what you want to do; however, I traded up to a B2710 this year; primary reason - to get power steering, but the additional power, stability, comfort, and speed of getting the work done is great, also. DSG's answer is good, but a new tractor with front end loader (which I would not be without) will cost more than you mentioned. I would not hesitate to buy a used one with a couple of thousand hours on it, if it had the features I wanted and the price was right, but in my area good used ones are hard to find. Good luck with your shopping.






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 10-09-1999, 00:00 Post: 8639
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David - I guess I disagree a little with your first respondant to get a little more tractor than you think you need. I like small, because it makes a tractor more manuverable, less damaging to the soil, easier to find a place to park it, etc. 3 acres is not a heck of a lot of land, so I would not hesitate to stick with a 16 horsepower machine like the Kubota B7300 mentioned by Bird. A new one with loader will run about 11,500 - 12,000, and add another almost 2,000 for a mower. I have a 1700 which is similar, but with 17 horsepower and power steering. I have a 10 acre horse farm, and the convenience of small size greatly outweighs the few instances where I wish I had more power.Good luck,PaulB






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 10-09-1999, 00:00 Post: 8649
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I also disagree with your first respondent. At least in this case. I've certainly heard many people on this board wish they had bought a larger tractor, and they were probably correct, but you've only got three acres If you move and end up with 20 or 30 acres you WILL want a larger machine.I have 3 acres and bought a '96 JD755 with about 400 hours on it.It was and is in almost perfect condition. Mine came with a loader, 4 wd,ps, 3 point hitch, ballast box, and turf tires. Paid about 12,000.00 It's big enough for anything I'll need to do on three acres. I agree with Paul on all the other advantages.I would suggest, if looking at compacts in this range, and you intend to use a loader, to get the 4 wd. The 2wd with loaders, in my opinion are almost useless.4wd will give you a lot more ooomph when you need it! Also don't know if you've given it much thought, but the 755 I purchased came with hydrostatic trans. This means no shifting gears. One pedal for forward, one for reverse. There are certainly people on this board that like them and those that don't. And both sides have some valid points. For my 2 cents worth, I wasn't looking for a hydrostatic trans, but this tractor was so nice and cared for I decided to buy it. I'm really glad I did. Makes it a very easy to operate machine.Hope this helps. If you need more info...e-mail me. ....Ray






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 10-09-1999, 00:00 Post: 8651
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David, these discussions can be very interesting and informative. As I said before, much depends on personal preference; some say get a little bigger than you need, some say stay with the small one. It's kind of like these blasted computers; if you know exactly what you are going to do with it, you buy a machine to do that; no problem. But I've never known of anyone yet with a computer who didn't find additional things they wanted to do, after they got it (this is my 6th one). I think the same holds true for tractors. When I bought the B7100, I thought I was buying my only tractor for life to take care of my 10 acres. I didn't know my brother would later buy 10 acres down the road from me (solid timber that had to be cleared to build a house), that he'd need my help and my tractor to dig a foundation, then to backfill around the foundation, do the landscaping, etc., or that I'd spend two days pulling a hay rake for a neighbor whose brand X tractor broke down, or that the 27 acres next door would sell to someone who only comes out in the country about one weekend every couple of months, and wants me to help take care of his place, and several other little things like that. And I, also, was not looking for a hydrostatic transmission, but bought one and now would not even consider anything else. Whew, I sometimes get long winded! Just try out a few tractors, find one that "feels" right to you, and if you KNOW what you'll be using it for, that's the right one.






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 10-10-1999, 00:00 Post: 8660
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Hi DavidI looked long and hard for a used machine and could not find anything. Most good machines bring what the owners paid new for them after several years and many hours. If you are like me and run things forever I would pick out a new machine and pay the extra $.. I waisted way too much time looking at used stuff which I could have spent working on the homested.mario






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 10-11-1999, 00:00 Post: 8685
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I agree with most things said, therefore I'm not going to rehash things. We have 2 acres, 1 acre sloped/wooded, 1 acre open/flat/clear. I absolutely love the 20HP JD4100. Naturally, it would be nice to have 25hp in the 4100 frame. "I" personally wouldn't go smaller than 20hp, mainly because the 16-17hp units are basically sized the same as the 20's. Do you need that extra hp?? maybe...maybe not. My view has always been to have a "little" extra, rather than constantly be pushing things to the limit. I also had a very tough time trying to find "good" used stuff, not to mention the 4100 is a new model. Unlike cars, tractors really hold there value if properly maintained. No one can decide for you, but my personal advice: 20-25hp range, Hydro, Loader. BTY: the JD4100 doesn't support a back-hoe. Something to consider if future plans would ever call for it. In my case, I could hire someone for a while before I would break even. Not to mention storage and maintainance.






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 10-11-1999, 00:00 Post: 8690
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Not owning a 4100 I really don't have to know, but exactly why can't you put a 3 point mount backhoe on it? I can understand that JD doesn't make a subframe, and they may not RECOMMEND a backhoe, but won't a category 1 3 point mount bachhoe fit ANY tractor with a standard category 1 setup? I thought that was the beauty of the Harry Ferguson system - universal fit.






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 10-12-1999, 00:00 Post: 8705
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Paul,I suspect other readers on this board are more knowledgable to the exact reasoning. From everything I've gathered, it has to do with the 4100 having a cast aluminum tranny housing. This combination appearantly cannot handle the torsional stress a backhoe places on the unit, even 3pt hook ups. Obviously you can physically install a 3pt BH unit, but JD will void your warranty for doing so. I guess JD wants you to go for at least the 26HP unit if you need a BH.






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