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 04-24-2004, 09:32 Post: 84122
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I am looking for a tractor to use, most weeks, to mow approximately 3 acres of lawn immediately around my house. There are several trees, so I probably need something fairly maneuverable with a belly mower. There are another couple of acres adjacent to it that slopes down into something of a sinkhole that would need to be cleared 2 or 3 times a year. I would also, however, like to be able to square-bale hay another 10 acres of gently rolling pasture twice a year.

My knowledge of tractors is minimal to say the least. When brush hog and hay time comes, I donít mind spending a little extra time to get the job done Ė i.e. I am not too concerned about speed for the heavier-duty tasks. I am just interested in the smallest, reliable tractor to get the job done. I am thinking 4wd would be wise; however, I am not very clear what I need in terms of horsepower. From what I have read, it sounds as if 35 hp may be the minimum for hay, but could I get by with less for square baling? Any particular tractor models you might suggest? I would probably lean towards a used tractor. I appreciate any recommendations you can offer.






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 04-25-2004, 07:45 Post: 84202
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 Mow, hay, and hog 15 acres

The 35 horsepower you talk about is 35 PTO hosepower which puts you up to about 40 engine horsepower needed. I'd really be wondering about the equipment you need to do this which will cost quite a bit. A new baler is about 15000 at a minimum or 5000 for a reliable used one, mower for the hay 12000 new, even used for a good reliable one you would be about 4000 and a rake for 1000 about the same for a used tedder and then a couple of wagons new at about 3000 each or used for 1500 to 2000.






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 04-25-2004, 18:34 Post: 84254
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I would have to ditto art. To by all the equiptment needed for 10acers os not very econamical. My suggjestion would be to get a tractor and belly mowwer and pay a farmer to come and cut and bale the hay.






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 04-26-2004, 07:02 Post: 84320
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Thanks so much for your responses. I realize I am not looking at a potential economic windfall here. Let me see if I have you straight here. (I understand your figures are rough.)

New equipment setup
$15,000 baler
$12,000 mower to cut hay
$1,000 rake
$3,000 x 2 wagons
+ cost of 40 h.p. tractor

Used setup
$5,000 baler
$4,000 mower to cut hay
$1,000 rake
$1,500 - 2,000 x 2 wagons
+ cost of tractor

These costs don't include whatever I would need for the yard unless I am mistaken. You'll have to pardon my ignorance, but why do you say a couple of wagons are necessary?

Currently I do have a farmer haying the field, and we split the hay. By the way, what split is typical/reasonable?

I wasn't really thinking of it when I posted originally, but I guess my hope is to eventually obtain some additional acreage, so, even if I don't buy all the equipment now, it would be nice to at least get the tractor that would suit the purposes mentioned rather buy a small one now for just mowing then a larger one down the road. It's also possible in the near term I could also borrow some of the implements and do the hay myself.

Thanks again. Still learning...






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 04-26-2004, 08:49 Post: 84332
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If it's square bales you can mow it, rake it and bale it with 35HP easy.
Used 30-40 HP tractor= $4,000- $10,000
New CCM drum mower= $2,000
New CCM Rake = $490
Used NH 273 baler= $1,700
This is just an example.
You will not get rich but can pay the taxes and have extra money to invest in newer equipment.






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 04-26-2004, 09:29 Post: 84337
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I found this mini baler [link below]; it may work out better for you, because you will not need a 40hp tractor... I'm no expert, but something to throw out there.... I have no idea what it costs though.






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 04-26-2004, 09:40 Post: 84339
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Most people cut their own hay and rake it but have the hay custom baled. If you do this you will not have much invested at all into your operation.






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 04-26-2004, 10:06 Post: 84344
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This thread sure is sounding suspiciously like a spam for Carter & Carter Machinery.

But I must be mistaken, surely one of our own members wouldn't do THAT and risk p'ing off all the other members.






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 04-26-2004, 10:12 Post: 84345
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Murf, I have to agree with you on the spamming....

What are your thoughts on the mini baler.. it sounded neat for small operations.






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 04-26-2004, 10:15 Post: 84346
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Murf,
You've been mistaken before. CCM did not start this thread.
It just a fact the not many companies have hay equipment that works on less than 40 HP but CCM is one of those companies. Does JD or NH have any? NO so how will you be able to post about how a JD XYZ model will work on less than 40 HP. Does any other USA company have a drum mower that works on a 20 HP tractor? If you say Star they are from Japan. Get the facts straight Murf.






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