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 09-29-2001, 22:09 Post: 32113
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Just found this msg board today. What a great wealth of information! Still having problems deciding what size tractor I need. Have been the proud owner of a '48 8n Ford for 9 years (but she's getting tired!). I move a lot of dirt with my 6' back blade, mow 4 acres with a 60" finish mower, plow a small garden with a 2x12" plow, and drill holes with a 12" PHD (not to mention the numerous other tasks I have her do to keep me from breaking a sweat!)Am planning on looking at John Deere and Kubota, but not sure what size. A local JD dealer is trying to talk me into a 4100HST 4WD. After reading all these postings, I'm thinking maybe 4200 and have no idea on the orange ones.Can anyone help me find a comparable tractor to my 8n in terms of power and capabilities? Any help would be greatly appreciated.






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 09-30-2001, 05:56 Post: 32119
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Mike, your best bet is to visit the dealers and test drive some of the tractors. If you want a Deere, I think you're right to consider the 4200 over the 4100, and I'd suggest you start with a Kubota B2710 or B2910 (might even want to consider the L3010) and a New Holland TC29D (of course you might want to consider the TC25 and TC33s also).






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 09-30-2001, 11:47 Post: 32126
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Thanks for the input, Bird. Stopped by the JD dealer again to get a closer look at the 4200. To my surprise, I found a used 2000 model 4200 SST MFWD w/ 420 FEL and 104 hrs - very clean! They are asking $13,600. This is only $1,600 more than the 4100 they showed me (the 4100 had HST but no FEL). Sounds great to me, although the wife thinks HST would be more beneficial than the FEL. Their price on a new 4200HST is $15,000 and $2,400 to add a FEL. How does this sound to anyone else?






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 09-30-2001, 12:06 Post: 32127
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 Need help comparing new Compacts to 8n Ford

Mike, I used a 1948 Ford 8N for 15 years, and while I still have great affection for it, I began to be aware of its very real limitations, not only in performance but in safety. Since buying a JD 4400 two and a half years ago, I have been truly amazed at the difference, particularly the incredible difference the HST makes. I would definitely urge you to try these machines out and buy according to your own taste and preferences.






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 09-30-2001, 15:16 Post: 32128
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Mike, the front end loader is about the handiest implement there is. I couldn't do without it. Of course nothing is absolutely necessary, but in my opinion with a front end loader on a small tractor, you sure want 4WD, power steering, and HST.






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 09-30-2001, 15:47 Post: 32129
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You guys are bringing me down! I was real excited about the used 4200 and didn't seem to mind the stick shift. About everything I hear, though, tells me that HST is the only way to go with a FEL. Oh well, I'll keep looking, but I'm not putting the stick shift out of my mind.






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 09-30-2001, 17:54 Post: 32132
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Mike, there's nothing wrong with a stick shift, but if you do very much dirt moving with the front end loader (like I've been doing the past two days), it'll wear you out, or maybe wear the clutch out. Would you be happy with a stick shift car in big city, bumper to bumper, stop and go traffic? A few years ago, I did the backfilling around the foundation of my brother's house when we got it built. It was in a solidly wooded area and we only removed the trees we had to remove the build the house. At that time I just had a little Kubota B7100 and a neighbor with an 85 hp tractor wanted to help. In less than an hour, he had to quit because his clutch was smoking from changing directions, maneuvering among the trees, etc. I did the whole job with no problems with the HST.






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 09-30-2001, 23:57 Post: 32142
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While I certainly do not disagree with Bird that a hydrostat is very handy for FEL work, I do not think it's essential. I have a 4100 gear model and I find that I'm able to do work with my loader very quickly. Shifting and clutching seems like 2nd nature after you get comfortable with your machine (I'm sure the hydro is much easier, but I don't miss what I never had). You would find the shuttle shift tranny on the 4200 even easier than the tranny I have on my 4100. My advice before writing off the 4200 is to see if the dealer would let you try it out on a dirt pile and see what you think. Then if a gear tractor is OK with you, I'd go look at a new JD 790. They're a tough basic tractor with more HP and cost less new than you'd pay for a used 4200.






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 10-01-2001, 11:08 Post: 32150
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Can you pull a wheelie with HST?






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 10-01-2001, 11:23 Post: 32152
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Can you pull a wheelie with HST? Not if I can avoid it. Why would anyone want to, Steve? To answer your question though, probably not with the bare tractor, but if you have a heavy implement on the back, and no extra weights on the front, you can. Or of course, if you have good enough traction and doing something like dragging a lot that hangs up, you might (and of course you might also wish you hadn't).






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