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 05-14-2000, 15:07 Post: 16271
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Does anyone have any insight as to the abilities of very small compact tractors such as the JD650, Kubota B6000, Yanmar 155 (or the grey 1300)? I am considering a second tractor (I own a JD4400HST w/ loader, rotary etc.), mainly for jobs that require a tow tractor (ie getting sick of attaching and detaching hydraulic dump cart when using loader to move topsoil or manure or whathaveyou). Are these types of tractors too light to pull my 2 ton utility cart (country manufacturing 2 ton utility cart...link below), even with a good amount of front weight? I'm pretty sure my JD425 (about 950# w/ mower) is too light to pull it safely...how much do these models weigh? I'd like to buy from a local dealer for service, but i don't have the money to step out of this class of very small compacts without going grey (and if i did, what size yanmar would be able to tow the cart safely? weight guidelines?). also, would 2wd vs. 4wd have any great effect on the ability of the tractor to just pull the cart or till a small garden? Any advice? sorry for the book!Ben






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 05-14-2000, 18:06 Post: 16275
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The JD 670 has a spec weight of 1860 pounds. Since it is the updated version of the 650, the weight is probably close. Your trailer alone weighs 500 pounds in addition to a maximum 4000 pound payload. The towing capacity printed in JD brochures indicates that the towed load should not exceed the weight of the tractor plus operator. 4WD makes a definite difference in stopping ability on grades. Maybe for safety's sake, your trips on and off the 4400 to hook-up and unhook the trailer are worth it.






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 05-14-2000, 19:41 Post: 16277
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I don't know about the other tractors, but I used to have a B7100 Kubota and the manual said trailer gross weight of 1,000 lbs. Naturally you could pull more, but a 2 ton trailer behind a B6000 isn't something I'd really want to do. I agree with Jack.






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 05-18-2000, 13:33 Post: 16388
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Ben,
I have a JD 650 4WD. I believe the weight is around 1200-1300 lbs. I would be very cautious about pulling anything over 1000 lbs with this tractor. The main complaint I have with it (although it's also a safety factor) is that the tractor loses traction very easily. This is a direct effect of the light weight. On level ground, I'm sure I could pull several tons, but on any grade (up or down) I'd worry about losing control when the tractor lost traction. I'd stick with your bigger tractor unless you are on dead level ground.






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 05-18-2000, 13:36 Post: 16389
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Forgot about your 2WD/4WD question. The 4WD is absolutely essential for these machines to come anywhere close to performing up to the bigger tractors. Once again, it's the traction problem. The difference between 2 and 4WD is like night and day with my tractor. The only time I'm out of 4WD is on hard pavement.






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 05-18-2000, 16:34 Post: 16398
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I'm sure there must be a use for 2WD small tractors, but I agree with Gene; I sure wouldn't want one. When I had the B7100, I used 4WD a large percentage of the time, and needed it.






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 05-20-2000, 01:02 Post: 16439
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The cart can be had from Northern Tool for $800 - 800-556-7885






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 05-20-2000, 19:06 Post: 16445
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I've been using a JD750 to clear a house lot and skid Pine logs for sawing into timbers. I've calc the wt. of machine w/ loaded tires and 67 loader to be 2900 lbs. I realize that I need a bigger machine, and I'm looking for one, however, I'm constantly amazed at what this 18 pto hp machine will accomplish. one of the biggest drawbacks form a stability standpoint is the narrow overall width. It's only 44.6 inches and can be dangerous on slopes.






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 05-20-2000, 20:59 Post: 16446
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Eric. Do use some sort of arch on your 3pt. hitch to lift one end of the log clear of the ground?






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 05-20-2000, 21:06 Post: 16447
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Eric. Please disregard my first reply, I had not seen your first post when I sent it.






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