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 11-24-2003, 20:38 Post: 69535
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I had hoped to be able to use my new Orange B7800 w/4-in-1 FEL to bite a number of small (4"-6" dia) locus stumps and yank them out of the ground.

Right now the ground in VA is pretty wet, so it won't get much easier that it is right now, but I couldn't do it. I was just breaking a new machine in, so I didn't go to full power.

I tried straight lifts, pushing & pulling from several directions and didn't seem to make much headway.

The stumps would move fairly well, but they wouldn't let go.

Locus seems to be a pretty stubbborn, stringy wood. So Sad

Is it time for a dirt saw? Smile I have an old Mac that I gave away (and they gave it back). If I can get it started I wouldn't mind getting it in the dirt if necessary.

I'm having some back trouble, so I don't really want to go the pick axe route.






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 11-24-2003, 20:48 Post: 69539
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I don't know about locus stumps but I dig out douglas fir stumps with my bucket all the time. Here is my technique.

Approach the stump and dig to the left of the stump. Dig down to where the roots are and then use the bucket to tear through the root. Do the same to the right of the stump. Then tackle it from the front in the same manner. Once I have three sides done I use the bucket curl to pull the stump over. I rarely have to use a chainsaw. There might be a better way but this works for me.

Of course doug firs have fairly shallow roots but I've done stumps up to 12" with this technique. The big ones might take an hour, but I do stuff in the 4-6" range in about 5-10 minutes.






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 11-25-2003, 03:57 Post: 69549
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 Small Stump Suggestions?

How much stump did you leave? If you left enough and have a 3ph attachment like a box scraper that has a cutter on both sides should do it. I usually back up against get a good bite and continue to back as I raise the 3ph. Then let go and back over it and do that fwd raising as I pull then use bucket to finish off.

Locust stumps will last a long time. I am just guessing here because of soils but would suspect 6" is proably a little more than a small compact would want to deal with. THAT Said: it is dooable.

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 11-25-2003, 05:23 Post: 69551
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Try pushing over trees before you cut them with bucket up high watch out for dead branch overhead first






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 11-25-2003, 08:56 Post: 69569
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 Small Stump Suggestions?

Your loader should develop the same amount of power at almost any engine RPM above idle. When you increase the RPM's your get more loader speed not necessarily more lifting power.

I have never had much luck with "ripping" things out of the ground with a compact tractor either, unless it has a backhoe.






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 11-25-2003, 14:14 Post: 69599
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 Small Stump Suggestions?

I use the 3PH for stumps. I use the FEL or backhoe to dig around the stump to loosen it. I have a drawbar between the lifting arm ball joints. A chain and perhaps a little forward motion has worked for me.

The 3PH can lift a lot more than most loaders. It is also very controllable and easier to watch than the FEL.






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 11-25-2003, 14:50 Post: 69600
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"I have never had much luck with "ripping" things out of the ground with a compact tractor either, unless it has a backhoe."

I agree, I have MUCH better luck with my truck and a good chain. I would try that first.






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 11-25-2003, 15:34 Post: 69604
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The Lawman has a good point. When it comes to winning an argument with a stump it boils down to two things, brute force and weight.

I routinely pluck 16-18" pine stumps out the back of my place, but I do it with a 10 ton TLB, not my 'Bota.

The ripper sounds like a good idea if you really want to test your CUT.

Best of luck.






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 11-26-2003, 05:00 Post: 69657
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Depending on how many stumps you have (or can get ready)
I would recommend a Vermeer 252 stump cutter,Most rental
stores carry them.Here in Maine they run about 125.00/half day,225.00 full day.Maybe your neighbor has some as well?
I have owned and operated a stump removal service for 8 yrs.
I am on my second new 252,completely wore out the first one.
The trick in renting is a new set of teeth!!Just pull any rocks and dirt away,the width of a spade only 4-5 inches down. Do all your stumps before you rent it. You should be
able to do 4-6" stumps in less than a minute. I can do a 30" Oak 3-4 in. below grade in 20-30 min. Throw the chips
in the woods and put a bucket full of dirt in the whole and your done! No chains to buy, no back windows to replace.
A lot less disturbed area as opposed to pulling.
Any questions, I'll try to help.
You may want to see if there is somebody in the biz around
you area, The machine demands alot of respect!! ALWAYS !!
SHUT CUTTER WHEEL OFF WHEN WALKING AROUND MACHINE!!!
it will rip your leg off!!
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 11-26-2003, 18:37 Post: 69726
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Thanks for the input.

I left myself about 3 ft of stump to work with in most cases; although now I do think it is best to leave the whole tree as a lever to start with.

One I did that with went over easily enough, but still wouldn't let go. I may try digging it out some with the FEL, but after reading other posts, don't want to rack the FEL too badly by pushing at it with the corners. I have a grader box on the wish list for other uses, but don't have it yet.

I already have a good logging chain, so maybe the 3ph with a toy like Chief's Pic#12, or the receiver hitch advertised to the right would be a good idea. More of a lift operation than a tug, since the back of my head is a lot closer to the stump than in the truck pulling version of this concept...

The Tree Puller (below) might be nice, put I don't have enough to justify the purchase. Not to mention no rear hydraulics on a B7800.

grinder - I'll consider your idea as well. It may be the smartest option of all, I just don't really want to wait to do all of them at once, and don't want to pay to do them more than once.






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