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 08-05-2000, 21:53 Post: 18544
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 Ford 8N Specifications question.

Does anybody know what the 3 Point Lift capacity is on the old Ford 8N tractors?






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 08-06-2000, 08:02 Post: 18549
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 Ford 8N Specifications question.

Don't know myself, but here are two sites that might be of some help. Each have discussion forums, but they aren't very active. Asking a dealer is another possibility.

http://www.ytmag.com/ http://www.tractortips.com/

The tractortips site also has specs for many tractors, but a lift capacity for the 8N isn't given. I note that the specs also indicate that the 8N doesn't have a Cat I 3ph. The 8N does have a 3ph, but not to the Cat I standard.

I asked my dealer the same question, and the answer is a bit qualified. For example: Does capacity mean the weight on the arm ends that stalls the hydraulics? The maximum weight the lift structure is design for? Or the maximum load that may be lifted 'safely?'

I'm not sure there's a standard definition for 3ph capacity. However, I'm guessing that tractors would be engineered so the hydraulics would stall before breaking the hitch. Similarly, I think it would be bad design if capacity means stalling the hydraulics. I think capacity primarily is a safety idea. What can be lifted without tipping the tractor up? If so, then the question becomes whether the capacity with or without front ballast?

I imagine that manufacturers are reluctant to actually put a number on capacity due to the variety of 3ph implements and uses. For example, I think the capacity of my Ford 1710 is 1875 lbs. I have pallet forks that weigh 650 lbs. themselves. If I took the hitch capacity and subtracted the implement weight, I might think I could lift about 1200 lbs. on the forks. However, the forks extend 3' beyond the hitch arms, and there is no way I would put anywhere near 1200 lbs. on the forks, even with ballast. Weight carried beyond the end of the hitch arms reduces the weight that may be safely carried.

I don't think too much about weight myself since I often don't know exactly how much something weighs. I think I'm over capacity if the steering is very light. Then, I add front ballast, usually a loader bucket of gravel. I have to trust that the tractor is engineered so that, if I keep adding ballast, the hydraulics will stall before anything breaks.






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 08-07-2000, 18:14 Post: 18590
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 Ford 8N Specifications question.

i have an 8n that the capacity is right at 1000lbs. I believe that the capacities on these machines varies widely because of the age. Mine will lift a 6 foot double roller brillion seeder with 50lbs of seed but not 100lbs. that is as heavy as it will go. that being said, this is also the tip capcity of the tractor on level ground. if going up hill it will tip easier. I have done a lot of sidehill work with this machine. it is very good at it, i have 2 other new tractors(4400 and 955) that don't hold a popcorn fart to the sidehill holding of the 8n. i keep having a local shop cobbling the poor old thing together and hope i holds another year. Just for anybodies info, if you win the lotto or something, my 8n man says he can build a whole new 8n with the parts now available. cost...................around $50,000!






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 08-07-2000, 21:13 Post: 18595
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 Ford 8N Specifications question.

I don't have a clue what the 3 pt. lift capacity of a Ford 8N is but I do remember a previous discussion on this board where it was generally agreed that 3 pt. lift capacity was the amount of weight that could be lifted 24 inches beyond the lift arms. I suppose that this rating is based on the belief that most cat. I implements have a center of gravity approximately 24 inches behind the lift arms. My JD 4100 has a 3 pt. lift capacity of about 960 lbs. I would guess that the Ford 8N has a similar rating. Hope this helps.






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 09-19-2002, 22:10 Post: 42676
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 Ford 8N Specifications question.

I had (just sold it and bought NH TC33D) a '47 9N and remember somewhere something about lifting 750 - 800 lb. when new. The TC 33D is rated somehwere around 1600 lb. Of course the farther out you go from the lift arms the more leverage you get resulting in less weight rating. I was moving 2- 14' long 6x6 treated timbers for a pole barn by sliding the ends under the axle and rsting the middle on the york rake and was surprised it could still lift them both at the same time. (Yeah, I know, that is machine abuse but I have a bad back)






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